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      09-09-2023, 06:07 PM   #45
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Thank you BMW ANOTHER FAIL !!! just like the UGLY 7 series and XM all 3 Hideous looking
I can relate to your comment regarding 7 & XM, but in the right spec you can hardly call the new 5 ugly imho.

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The new 5er has grown so much in length, BMW could fit another sedan between the 3er and 5er. 13-14 inches difference in length now.
Agreed, the 5 shouldn't exceed 5 meters (hehe), but as they don't offer the SWB 7 anymore... Just too big for European cities and parking spaces.

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You know they are just trolling us at this point.
On the standard kidney grille it looks ok, the radar is camouflaged by the silver painted 'slats', on the M-grille however the radar is very notable and just looks ugly.
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      09-09-2023, 08:15 PM   #46
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Isnt' this entire post all about the i5? That is an all electric vehicle, right?
Oh, crap, I didn't read the title past the "G60". Sorry about that!
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      09-09-2023, 08:17 PM   #47
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Looks good, way better than any 7 series. As long as they keep the HP up on the M version it'll be just fine. Also no big weight increase.
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      09-09-2023, 10:35 PM   #48
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Camera and radar co located. No surprise here for ADAS. The radar may get smaller in 5-10 years, we got to get used to this.
I understand what it is, but they could have excecuted the design much better.

For example, my other car a Volvo has all the cameras and radar built into the review mirror sunroof ceiling console. Not saying they do it the same way just that there must be some other way of doing this that is not so butt fuggin ugly.
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      09-10-2023, 02:26 AM   #49
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I am liking the design though it has grown big without much increase in the interior space.
Frankly I might be an outlier here, but I am liking the new BMW designs, they are definitely shaking up things and the new BMWs are a definite conversation piece. I love the new split headlights on my X7 it now looks like a tank and the interior is just beautiful, i am expecting this G60 to be same, once you see it in person it will grow on you just like the X7/7series and the 4/M3/M4 series.

Now XM is a different story, that I cannot put my thumb on.
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      09-10-2023, 04:31 AM   #50
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Not an instant beauty like some of the landmark designs of the past, but at least not as repulsive as some of their latest creations. The fire red is a nice addition to counter the overall grey colour palet.
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Strong Mercedes vibes from the rear and overall design language... seems like BMW and Mercedes both culturally cater to a very different BMWs we seen 20 years ago. THink of it what you want.
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      09-10-2023, 07:04 AM   #52
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One item which I’ve not seen mentioned is the radia Athena on the roof, todays this has simply been a shark fin on a plain roof. The g60 seems to have this mounted on a separate piece of roofing.
Not sure why
Personally looks a bit fussy to be and may explain why the roof is black to disguise somewhat?

Whilst this car isn’t for me having now seen it in the metal, I’m still interested to see how it sells and what options get added in the next year or so. Will they add the sort of things we’ve been used to like Alcantara headlining, soft close doors, etc or are bmw scaling down options on their cars in general?
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No- we are hating all the black shiny painted panels. It’s not sporty. And the contrast isn’t the “future”.

I’m in the market now for a car as I just sold my and driving an old backup.
Agree. Going back to the i3/i8 these shiny black surfaces on the front nose does not wear well.

IMO with electrification BMW styling is going to be polarizing for a few more years because the ICE grill has been part of their branding. Eventually the kidneys will disappear as customers age out.
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      09-10-2023, 11:21 AM   #54
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I spotted the car without camo last week in Austria. Looks ok to me.
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I hope that the interior of the doors in the cars that will be sold will be different from the models that have been presented.
I need more space on the doors to put my bottles.

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Agree. Going back to the i3/i8 these shiny black surfaces on the front nose does not wear well.

IMO with electrification BMW styling is going to be polarizing for a few more years because the ICE grill has been part of their branding. Eventually the kidneys will disappear as customers age out.
Don’t be surprised as they remain constant- IX is a great example of an EV with the kidney grill.
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      09-10-2023, 05:11 PM   #57
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I hope that the interior of the doors in the cars that will be sold will be different from the models that have been presented.
I need more space on the doors to put my bottles.

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What is in the front of the door pocket that we don’t get the space for water bottles or sunglasses or whatever?
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Are those who hate on it upset because they wanted to buy one and now won't or...?

Nice pics. Thx for sharing.
Nope. Just got 2023 ordered in last wagon... “Two ipads” design is no difference from Kia

BTW, saw 3 days ago new 5 in Munich as well. Nice Nissan… this is where market is going
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BMW should really stop using these plastic kidneys that look like $5 at Walmart
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Nice car, but the exterior definitely looks a bit too luxury than sporty, and you already know it's not going to be sporty to drive. Steering will be fingertip-light, smooth with zero feedback.

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BMW should really stop using these plastic kidneys that look like $5 at Walmart
Exactly. Grill looks like obvious plastic
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What is in the front of the door pocket that we don’t get the space for water bottles or sunglasses or whatever?
If you put a bottle there, you'll run out of space for other things.
The old door had its own place for bottles.
It is this part that is now missing.
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      09-11-2023, 06:33 AM   #63
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If you put a bottle there, you'll run out of space for other things.
The old door had its own place for bottles.
It is this part that is now missing.
I get that, but what is occupying that space now? Don’t think it’s a speaker because that’s higher on the door. Looks like it’s just dead space instead that wouldn’t have cost more to make as a bottle holder as in the G30.
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Not sold on the exterior, but at 41 I don't think I'm the target audience. Interior is very nice but the iPads really cheapen new cars, they are all the same. No more wow factor... just screens like all the other cars.
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I get that, but what is occupying that space now? Don’t think it’s a speaker because that’s higher on the door. Looks like it’s just dead space instead that wouldn’t have cost more to make as a bottle holder as in the G30.
In addition to opening the trunk, it seems to have a speaker, at least in the models with the Bowers & Wilkins sound system.
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I understand what it is, but they could have excecuted the design much better.

For example, my other car a Volvo has all the cameras and radar built into the review mirror sunroof ceiling console. Not saying they do it the same way just that there must be some other way of doing this that is not so butt fuggin ugly.

You sure that’s a radar? It cannot see through wind screen glass material. Radar works at a frequency which is different from cameras.

I have never heard of this in the rear view mirror assembly but I could be wrong since Volvo seems to have a different game. Any link to a manual confirming it’s a radar? Looks like stereo camera to me.
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