[Gautam]

Originally Posted by BimmerGuyFL78

Only thing iDrive does is unlock the rear doors when you use the front doors to access. You can no longer grab the rear door handle to unlock the car.

This would be incredibly frustrating to my wife and I at our current stage in life…first thing that happens before a trip is opening the rear door and getting the baby in. Such a small thing, but along with a power liftgate, makes life much easier.

I can’t even see rear comfort access adding 10 bucks to the manufacturer cost, but perhaps it’s costlier than I think. Either way I guess bmw decided that the math checks out to remove it.

[BimmerGuyFL78]

Originally Posted by Gautam

This would be incredibly frustrating to my wife and I at our current stage in life…first thing that happens before a trip is opening the rear door and getting the baby in. Such a small thing, but along with a power liftgate, makes life much easier.

I can’t even see rear comfort access adding 10 bucks to the manufacturer cost, but perhaps it’s costlier than I think. Either way I guess bmw decided that the math checks out to remove it.

Now it adds an extra step, instead of grabbing the rear door handle to unlock the vehicle you now have to grab the drivers or passenger rear door to make all doors unlock if properly setup in iDrive and then you can open the back door. See silly to do on a 5-series or i5 which are pretty expensive “premium” vehicles already.

[Turfer]

I was under the impression that with the new comfort access, the doors unlock as you approach the car and lock when you walk away. Also that there are settings in idrive that determine whether just the driver door or all 4 doors behave like this.

If this is the case, do we really need the old style touch comfort access on all the doors?

Or am I missing something here?

[PsychDoc]

Originally Posted by Turfer

I was under the impression that with the new comfort access, the doors unlock as you approach the car and lock when you walk away. Also that there are settings in idrive that determine whether just the driver door or all 4 doors behave like this.

If this is the case, do we really need the old style touch comfort access on all the doors?

Or am I missing something here?

Precisely! My feelings exactly.

[AllaVodka]

Cars hot garbage

[MrDit]

Originally Posted by AllaVodka

Cars hot garbage

Thanks for that very insightful review. There seem to be many on this forum who happen to enjoy it.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by Nahlem

Uhm based on what? A bit much of a conspiracy theorist here are we now. "The Elite are trying to make you stop driving cars" dude knock that off.

And this "EVs are a massive fraud" based on what? Your own opinion? What part of EVs are a fraud? Please do tell you seem to be so enlighten otherwise be careful with your choice of words to not make your self look stupid witch you probably arnt.

What part of EVs are fraud?

The price? The Range? The Performance? Please do tell by the same logic every early car was a fraud why would someone switch to an automobil from a horse? They performed worse, costed more in the beginning and so on and so forth.

So knock that nonsense talk off.

The biggest reasons we haven't seen any development of alternative fuels in so many years was the oil lobby doing their best to suppress other technologies this has been common knowledge for many years. And now that they can't any more they work through spreading false information about EV and other alternatives that will in no doubt cause them to loose market shares and I'm sure they are willing to give that up freely without a fight.

Thats why it is finally good to see more governments around the world being forced by the people who chose them to press OPEC countries harder there is no future in fossil fuels. They have been a great stepping stone for humanity to get to where we are today but their time is nigh.

Half of the population in Sweden has already submitted to the WEF-backed digital plantation, and I suspect you are one.

As you like.

[crypto]

This thread makes me want to go test drive one of these lol. If I can muster up some time. Closest dealership looks to have 6 in stock. Prices look to be around the same as old M550i prices.. 84-94k. I was surprised the price of the one from that review was nearly 140K euros. Yikes.

[aliasbex]

After this review I feel a little bit happier with my decision, that I went for a fully loaded eDrive40 instead of the M60. I was getting a little uncertain while awaiting mine (which is still over a month away). In the meantime I‘ve been watching all these mainly positive reviews about the M60, although I definitely don‘t need the power or AWD.

[AP]

Prices are I think quite expensive in Europe co pared to say the U.K. as one example

[paprmkr]

Originally Posted by Mani59

The team from AutoTopNL put the i5 M60 through its paces on the Autobahn.

well I love the car. but hate his stupid shoes. also his English sounds funny. hahaha

[OHV_44]

Originally Posted by paprmkr

…also his English sounds funny.

How is your Dutch or German? Certainly nothing, right?

[paprmkr]

They sound funny too. My Spanish is better but my French is on target.

[footie]

Motoring journalists by their very nature are against EVs and most if not all of their argument and dislikes centres around range, weight and noise/involvement. Having lived with EVs for over 2 years, first the i4M50 and now this very car the i5M60 I disregard with EVERY single complaint he has about the car.

Firstly the range argument. 95% of owners do less than 12000 miles per year FACT so that equals to less than 35 miles per day or in other words well within the total range of the car. Of course you can counter this with "but I do some journeys that are more than 200 miles in a round trip" and these will require a top up somewhere but again very occasional and you only get enough juice to get you home not fill it up so time wasted is minimal.

An EV at least at the moment isn't really for someone doing +30K miles per year so don't go this route and then complain because you bought the wrong motor.

Next is the weight argument, having had an M5 Comp the actual driving on the road isn't that different even when you push it. Where you do feel the weight is braking but beyond that it grips and changes direction very similarly because though heavier it's positioned lower.

And finally the noise/involvement, the whole point of an EV is the lack of noise for most owners and I am willing to bet most turn it off very quickly and just enjoy the silent which allows you to enjoy that amazing sound system all the better or talk to your passengers without raising your voice. For me personally the lack of noise is the best bit because every journey I finish more relaxed than ever when I had a regular ICE car.

I can't see myself ever returning to a normal fossil fueled car.

[OHV_44]

I am happy with my ICE.
It weighs 4,000 lbs. I drive 650 miles on one tank, 45 mpg and it's quiet too because I sail a lot.



[/OT]

[footie]

Originally Posted by OHV_44

I am happy with my ICE.
It weighs 4,000 lbs. I drive 650 miles on one tank, 45 mpg and it's quiet too because I sail a lot.



[/OT]

They are all great, my point was just because it's different doesn't mean it's bad or even worse it just means it's different. I loved my M5 when I had it but I don't miss it now I am driving the i5M60.

[paprmkr]

Originally Posted by footie

They are all great, my point was just because it's different doesn't mean it's bad or even worse it just means it's different. I loved my M5 when I had it but I don't miss it now I am driving the i5M60.

I feel the same. I driven ev 3 yr and done over 60k miles. I don’t have a problem with nothing. Since I planned and research what it takes I’m not complaining after the fact.
As matter 30 min charging time is not long. Especially by time I go restroom dog goes restroom and then snacks. I traveled Arizona and californa north to south. Last trip to Yosemite
Never had issues with charger if plan right. Apps let you know availability and function so choose wisely.
I still have ICE car but it’s driven 2k year