[IllSic_Design]

so the C8 Z06 is a downgrade from the C7 Z06? I wonder how well that's going to be accepted by Corvette enthusiasts

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

so the C8 Z06 is a downgrade from the C7 Z06? I wonder how well that's going to be accepted by Corvette enthusiasts

Define downgrade. How many people wouldn't trade a supercharged V8 for a flat plane crank mid-engine N/A V8 with 9k RPM redline? Sign me up!

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Define downgrade. How many people wouldn't trade a supercharged V8 for a flat plane crank mid-engine N/A V8 with 9k RPM redline? Sign me up!

well most people(not true car enthusiasts) only care about the HP, so if it loses HP going to the next generation I can see people being upset. But you are right, it will be a much more exciting engine.

[R N M]

Sounds great but there is a huge waiting list on this car and even regular C8.

[Humdizzle]

c7 z06's dyno what ? 550whp and was advertised as 650

so this c8 will probably dyno 520. really just depends on how heavy they make it. the current z51 is surprisingly porky at 3600 pounds

hope the c8z is lighter but i doubt it.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

c7 z06's dyno what ? 550whp and was advertised as 650

so this c8 will probably dyno 520. really just depends on how heavy they make it. the current z51 is surprisingly porky at 3600 pounds

hope the c8z is lighter but i doubt it.

SAE crank horsepower is what's advertised for GM vehicles. I've seen no data that indicates they aren't making SAE advertised HP. My LT1 dynos just over 400hp to the wheels, which makes it petty much on spot with the drivetrain losses and advertised SAE horsepower.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

so the C8 Z06 is a downgrade from the C7 Z06? I wonder how well that's going to be accepted by Corvette enthusiasts

LOL, I hope this is sarcasm.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by R N M

Sounds great but there is a huge waiting list on this car and even regular C8.

You should see some(minority) of the old fart C7 Z06 owners already trying to talk shit on the Vette forums. They don't get their beloved Corvette finally got a touch of European and a touch of class. All they care about is the good ole boy Murica ponies. This quite literally might end up being one of best NA engines ever put in an American production car. Mid engine sports car with dual clutch and 8500+ rpm flat plane crank V8 for well under $100k. What is there to complain about?

[mikado463]

Originally Posted by M3WC

You should see some(minority) of the old fart C7 Z06 owners already trying to talk shit on the Vette forums. They don't get their beloved Corvette finally got a touch of European and a touch of class. All they care about is the good ole boy Murica ponies. This quite literally might end up being one of best NA engines ever put in an American production car. Mid engine sports car with dual clutch and 8500+ rpm flat plane crank V8 for well under $100k. What is there to complain about?

LOL, good luck actually getting one for under 100k !

[mikado463]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

It's turning out to be pretty epic.

I'd still take a 458 though. Or even an f430. Just something so much more special about a Ferrari.

no argument but in a price to performance ratio there are few(if any) cars out there that will touch it I'm willing to bet.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

so the C8 Z06 is a downgrade from the C7 Z06? I wonder how well that's going to be accepted by Corvette enthusiasts

It doesn’t need as much power to be a better car due to proper engine placement. How do you think 911s keep up with 100 less hp? Base 992 911 performs fairly similarly to a C8. I realize pricing is different.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by c1pher

It doesn't need as much power to be a better car due to proper engine placement. How do you think 911s keep up with 100 less hp? Base 992 911 performs fairly similarly to a C8. I realize pricing is different.

Well that and Porsche under reports hp like most Germans. The 992 CS is realistically pretty close to the C8 in terms of real hp.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Well that and Porsche under reports hp like most Germans. The 992 CS is realistically pretty close to the C8 in terms of real hp.

Yes but I wasn’t talking about the C2S.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by c1pher

Yes but I wasn’t talking about the C2S.

But nearly all of the P Car advantage is just the launch control.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

But nearly all of the P Car advantage is just the launch control.

Almost every measure, the Porsche is better. It even has more room for stuff. And this may be a non issue for some people but the Corvette is bigger and heavier.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...n-test-review/

Plus, all the Corvette QC issues, I decided to back out of the Corvette. My 911 has none of those issues. I realize it seems like most of the Corvette issues are now gone but it’s still disconcerting.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by c1pher

Almost every measure, the Porsche is better. It even has more room for stuff. And this may be a non issue for some people but the Corvette is bigger and heavier.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...n-test-review/

Plus, all the Corvette QC issues, I decided to back out of the Corvette. My 911 has none of those issues. I realize it seems like most of the Corvette issues are now gone but it’s still disconcerting.

Oh, absolutely. You made the right call and got the better car. Enjoy it.

[flsupraguy]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

But nearly all of the P Car advantage is just the launch control.

Lol the new corvette is a great car but take it to a road course against a 992 carrera s both same pro driver on r compounds the 911 is gonna be a few seconds ahead.....

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by flsupraguy

Lol the new corvette is a great car but take it to a road course against a 992 carrera s both same pro driver on r compounds the 911 is gonna be a few seconds ahead.....

I just meant straight line acceleration. Chevy is one generation into this mid engine thing. Porsche has been doing it from the start.

[flsupraguy]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I just meant straight line acceleration. Chevy is one generation into this mid engine thing. Porsche has been doing it from the start.

Yes but thats a bit apples to oranges? Porsche has never been designed for straight line performance. Regardless, I'm on the wait list at 3 different dealers for new z06....

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by mikado463

LOL, good luck actually getting one for under 100k !

Pricing for any decent car right now is F'd, new or used. There are some that have had Z06 deposits for over a year and have msrp deals. So not completely uncommon. P-car dealers have 1.5-2 year wait for 992 allocations, any model including base. Anything in inventory has huge markups.

[mikado463]

Originally Posted by flsupraguy

Lol the new corvette is a great car but take it to a road course against a 992 carrera s both same pro driver on r compounds the 911 is gonna be a few seconds ahead.....

so, you're comparing a base Corvette to a 992 'S' ? What's the difference in msrp ? How about a base Corvette against a base 718 ? I'm sure their msrp's are more in line......

regardless both great cars and since this thread is about the soon to be revealed C8 ZO6 and as an owner of a C5 ZO6 I fully expect the evolution to be noteworthy

[flsupraguy]

Originally Posted by mikado463

so, you're comparing a base Corvette to a 992 'S' ? What's the difference in msrp ? How about a base Corvette against a base 718 ? I'm sure their msrp's are more in line......

regardless both great cars and since this thread is about the soon to be revealed C8 ZO6 and as an owner of a C5 ZO6 I fully expect the evolution to be noteworthy

Pricing is a completely different conversation but "ironically" comes up in an argument for a lesser performance car to "justify" their faults. Ultimately, you typicqlly get what you pay for in the long run. This is coming from someone who has owned a z06, gt3, supra, m3's, ect. Again, the c8 is a phenomenal car for the money but overall fit and finish is comical compared to the Porsche counterparts....