[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Have you thought of a smaller one? We've fit one in our X1 and the 1er before that and my 5'3" wife still has room to leave her seat where it normally is. Hell, I've debated getting a BRZ for use with a rear facing seat and the dog too. I'm 6'2" and can't see ever needing/wanting something of this size.

What seat are you using? We have a Chicco KeyFit30 and there's no fucking chance it would have fit in the 1er.

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Have you thought of a smaller one? We've fit one in our X1 and the 1er before that and my 5'3" wife still has room to leave her seat where it normally is. Hell, I've debated getting a BRZ for use with a rear facing seat and the dog too. I'm 6'2" and can't see ever needing/wanting something of this size.

No, I think a big part of the problem is the shape of the X5s seat back, it returns back at the top of the seat. Using the same child seat she actually as much more space in my S4

[Meeni]

Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask

I'm afraid I may. My damn X5 is not big enough. With a rear facing child seat behind the front passenger seat, the front seat is unusable. The seat back is straight up, and it is so far forward that my (small) wife's knees are pressed against the dash (absolutely no exaggeration).

My 3 year old is behind the drivers seat behind me (not do small) with no room for her feet.

We are going on a road trip next week. To make it possible in the X5, the 3 year old is in the 3rd row on the passenger side, the middle row 40% on the passenger side is folded down, the rear facing seat is in the middle of the third row. It is fucking stupid, but it should work.

My two kids (3, 4) and their gear fit perfectly in my 3 series. I have to admit that when they were below 1, I would have appreciated a hatch/wagon for the strollers, but now it does not matter much anymore. I don't know why is it that your car seats don't fit in a SUV, but this is not normal. Rear facing car seats fitted just fine in my normal car

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

What seat are you using? We have a Chicco KeyFit30 and there's no fucking chance it would have fit in the 1er.

It's the sister in law's, a Britax of some sort, I'll double check. We don't have our own yet, but have shuttled hers around in each car. For some reason she was never cool with my M Coupe, even though it killed the air bags, in theory.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask

No, I think a big part of the problem is the shape of the X5s seat back, it returns back at the top of the seat. Using the same child seat she actually as much more space in my S4

Interesting, does the X5 rear seat back recline? The X1 has adjustment all the way back to about 15 degrees, which helps square things up.

Don't get me wrong, my sister has had Suburbans for ages and they're great for what they are, it's the one truly flawless product GM makes. She shuttles tons of teenagers around, so I get why she needs the size, I just don't have that demand, yet...

[ep_83]

I like the front, not diggin' the back.

[ScarecrowBoat]

why is there a flag pole coming out of the steering wheel

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by Meeni

My two kids (3, 4) and their gear fit perfectly in my 3 series. I have to admit that when they were below 1, I would have appreciated a hatch/wagon for the strollers, but now it does not matter much anymore. I don't know why is it that your car seats don't fit in a SUV, but this is not normal. Rear facing car seats fitted just fine in my normal car

The seats fit better in my car too (2013 S4). Once we are in booster seats a 911 will work.

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Interesting, does the X5 rear seat back recline? The X1 has adjustment all the way back to about 15 degrees, which helps square things up.

Don't get me wrong, my sister has had Suburbans for ages and they're great for what they are, it's the one truly flawless product GM makes. She shuttles tons of teenagers around, so I get why she needs the size, I just don't have that demand, yet...

With the 3rd row the middle seat does slide and recline, it is all the way back and all the way reclined.

We actually went and looked at the new Range Rover, the seat fit much better in it. I am not paying $100k+ so my wife can trash a new truck

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask

We actually went and looked at the new Range Rover, the seat fit much better in it. I am not paying $100k+ so my wife can trash a new truck

They do look great though! I didn't catch that you were trying to fit the kid seat in the way back, my mistake. Yeah, X5 third rows are a joke. If you really need that kind of space, you're going to benefit from something bigger. What about the Kleenex Box, err, Disco?

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by ScarecrowBoat

why is there a flag pole coming out of the steering wheel

Lol, that would be the transmission shifter! Talk about old school...

[secretsquirrel]

Originally Posted by P1et

Front looks like a GLK, rear looks like a Volvo 850 station wagon. It does not look better than the current one, which is a giant pile of poop in the looks (both inside and outside) department.

I agree with the above posters: there is no need for an SUV this big. Kids or not. My brother and I grew up in an Mk1 Golf. Never an issue.

But it is very nice when you can haul your entire family of 5 and your dog(s) to your parents house a few hours away and have room for luggage. Not to mention the times when you pick up your nephews so they can come over play with your two sons. Did I mention that my parents have lots of land, so we often bring our four wheelers down and sometimes our boat to go fishing.

I grew up with my family having 5 seater cars, but time change. If it where about what you absolutely need, everyone would have cars with no more than 200hp/200ft lbs and there would be 1 TV in every house.

Everyone has different needs. This is why they make more than one type of car. I guess it makes us more of an enthusiast to discredit anything that isn't suited for our particular taste.

[W///]

Originally Posted by buildbright

What is homeage? I know what homage is and that really pays respect to the 1960's Escalade well. I guess they should put 2 foot fins on the back and teal vinyl. Oh, Snarf!

Don't worry, he faps to everything that comes from GM.

Front doesn't look bad, rear is OK. It's not exactly going to win award of the year. Just another Chevy Suburban with some Caddy frosting on it.

[F32]

Originally Posted by P1et

I agree with the above posters: there is no need for an SUV this big. Kids or not. My brother and I grew up in an Mk1 Golf. Never an issue.

There's no need for much in the world. Luxuries are nice, though. Try it out.

[F32]

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

I guess it makes us more of an enthusiast to discredit anything that isn't suited for our particular taste.

I've had an "enthusiast" scoff at my purchase of a Range Rover Sport for my girlfriend for the reasoning that a Jeep SRT-8 is faster. I LOLd.

There are few SUVs as comfortable as an Escalade/Denali for long trips. I borrow my father's Denali every now and then...it's great.

[lsmkr01]

I want to like it more than I actually do at the moment.

[P1]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I actually like it.


I call shenanigans on this one. The GL and Suburban are the only SUVs that will fit three car seats across the middle seat and they definitely fit the RFCS without messing with passenger comfort in the front. Even a Grand Cherokee has inches of room between the RFCS and front passenger seat with my wife sitting comfortably. She's 5'5"ish.



Laws have changed. You're not allowed to leave the hospital with a newborn without a rear-facing car seat. Good luck getting that into an MK1 Golf - or an MKVI for that matter. I never thought I would be on this side of this argument but having just had our first, we quickly found out that our FX35 and S4 are both too small for life with a small child. We take a fair amount of road trips and my wife has to sit almost verticle in both cars. We are getting a Grand Cherokee for additional room.

Haha. Since I don't have any kids yet, thanks for filling me in. I had no idea car seats were any different now vs. when my brother and I were born in the 80s.

[ep_83]

Originally Posted by lsmkr01

I want to like it more than I actually do at the moment.

+1000

I really need to see it in person. I hope the back makes more sense in the real world. Everytime Caddy unveils a new car, I'm always a little underwhelmed by pictures. Their design language, to me, is much more appreciated in person.

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I actually like it.


I call shenanigans on this one. The GL and Suburban are the only SUVs that will fit three car seats across the middle seat and they definitely fit the RFCS without messing with passenger comfort in the front. Even a Grand Cherokee has inches of room between the RFCS and front passenger seat with my wife sitting comfortably. She's 5'5"

My brother is 6'5" his wife is every bit of 5'11" so they do tend to have the seats back a bit. Their main complaint with the gl is the width, she likes to be able to get between the two in the back seat occasionally on long trips, but they definitely do have some issues with front seat space and rear facing seats.

Once booster seats/forward facing seats are an option the problems go away.

[MisterSkiMask]

It should also be noted that I come from a long of idiots. We think nothing of jumping in the car and going 200 miles in each direction for a weekend.

When I say road trip, I mean 400 - 500 miles + each way (which we are doing next week)

[Los Angeles]

I think they nailed it on the design... except for the tail lights. They really dropped the ball on that one IMO. Very Volvo-like.

If they would have remained more traditional as they are on the newly face-lifted Denali Yukon/Suburban, then all would be well with this.

Otherwise, this is right on par with what GM has been putting out lately. I'm just disappointed in that one key element.

[Los Angeles]

[py0413]

Looks decent enough but wtf is wrong with that gear selector behind the steering wheel? It takes only one ugly stick to ruin some good work.