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      05-28-2023, 04:04 PM   #67
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Let's just spare a sympathetic thought for the captain of M trying to look and sound enthusiastic standing in front an EV... Presumably, he was the same chap who claimed in an interview with Autocar a few months back that the majority of thoroughbred M-owners wouldn't apparently care about what the next gen drive trains would consist of (right...). Still, at least they're retaining, with seemingly scandalous defiance, some semblance of a V8 for the top end of this new bulbous iteration of the 5.
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Don't understand why they put a M badge on a none M car.
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      05-29-2023, 04:27 AM   #69
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https://media.autoexpress.co.uk/imag...n-tourer-1.jpg

This says it all, an M badge on one of these. Talk about diluting the brand!
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      05-29-2023, 05:56 AM   #70
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Power train does not determine the asthetics appeal of a car. You can put an ICE or an EE and the vehicle looks the same.

The proportions are just very odd. It looks compressed from the sides, stretched up from the top, and like an SUV/2GC from the front.

The front doesn’t match the exterior styling and overall side profile is really bad looking.
Well it could be lower but then you would most likely end up with bad knee angle for the rear passengers, and that's not how it's supposed to be.
I'd rather have a car that rides a bit higher but with superior seating comfort.
Tesla suffers from bad ergonomics in the S and 3. Haven't tested the new S so can't say much there.
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Well it could be lower but then you would most likely end up with bad knee angle for the rear passengers, and that's not how it's supposed to be.
I'd rather have a car that rides a bit higher but with superior seating comfort.
Tesla suffers from bad ergonomics in the S and 3. Haven't tested the new S so can't say much there.
Get an SUV.
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I am at the point where I have no desire for any BMW new cars. Sure, I know and can see it's a very quality product but that is how I see it now, just as product.
It's amazing how BMW's gone from my #1 brand to total irrelevance in the matter of 10-15 years. Each product release is like getting sucker punched... eventually you just stop caring.

This thing's a set of gimmicks on wheels.
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ugly and heavy and fake sound.... who wants this? really sorry
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Get an SUV.
I'd rather not, but I get why people do. The ride height gives great visibility and a relaxed drive. Sure SUVs don't handle as well as sedans but not everybody have the same perception about ride handling.

Anyway I'm glad that they didn't compromise with seating comfort. I certainly would never by an i5 with bad ergonomics.
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So true lol. The new Benz are actually atrocious, the i5 just looks a bit bulbous perhaps and not super inspired

It’s always been a product focused on evolution, and if nothing else, it does look more modern
Very good point. The new Benz actually look worse than the BMWs.
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Very good point. The new Benz actually look worse than the BMWs.
Of course!

This is a BMW forum, not a design forum!

The new E class is quite handsomely put together.
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Don't understand why they put a M badge on a none M car.
It’s like alphabet soup… M’s for everyone
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Every morning I walk past a 2 series tourer. So front wheel drive glorified shopping trolley. That has an M badge on the side.

Talk about diluting the brand!
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This will sell like hotcakes. Traditional with enough new design tweaks that won’t polarize - like the monstrous i4 grills.

Performance will be superb and I’m just glad JT doesn’t have a square steering wheel like the XM.

Now if only they could give me a circular tach - hate those triangles!
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If I hear “M” one more time I’m going to go ape shit. You can’t justify this car as Motorsport (or any other non-m car) by “M”-ing it to death.

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