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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...ecall/8449257/ I mean hell BMW just literally issued a recall a couple of hours ago: http://wot.motortrend.com/recall_201...r_feature.html http://www.automd.com/recall/bmw_m/ Recalls are common. GM is just getting more press because of what happened when it chose not to issue a recall... |
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The M3 and 911 at least come with three pedal options and dual clutch as an option. The Corvette is a regular torque convertor automatic, not a dual clutch. Ferrari has sold their soul, having driven a few gated shifter Fezzae, I will always miss that and really don't care what sort of baloney tie in they offer to F1 or chasing magazine numbers, manuals will always be my preference.
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Does it have a torque converter? Let's just leave it at that, no matter how fast it is. It's got a heck of a lot more to do with a slushbox from a 20 year old Buick than it does with a DSG.
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Even in Europe, at best only 50% of the populace can drive a stick. So for, say, Ferrari to NOT offer some sort of transmission where your average idiot driver (but with disposable income) can just hop in and drive is, again, stupid and financial suicide. They immediately eliminate 1/2 or more of their potential client base. It's akin to Apple only making iPhones for left handers. Does not compute.
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Does anyone recall that we were actually discussing the impact of the change from a six speed automatic to an eight speed and the direct value hit the first year six speed auto cars might feel? I still vote for nearly nil, as all those folks that can't manage to drive with both feet probably can't count all the way to six, much less eight, so they'll all be fine.
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The Z8 outsold it because it competed for an entirely different demographic. The Z8 was squarely targeted at the Mercedes SL crowd, many of whom had lost interest in driving a manual when they retired from the air force after WWII. It's really apples and oranges. One is targeted at wealthy retired folks while the other was aimed at performance oriented youngsters. It's just not a fair comparison. Quote:
The other element is that they spend hundreds of millions developing the technology for their F1 team that it makes sense for it to trickle down to the street cars. This also appeals to a portion of their demo. Ferrari doesn't have much interest in selling cars to the average idiot driver.
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The fact that with a $10,000 trunk cash, that the MZ4 Roadster would have been only $2,000 more than a equivalently equipped Z4 3.0Si Roadster but with 70 more HP and significantly more performance elsewhere, that the 3.0Si Roadster sold MORE in half a year than all 3 year's MZ4 Roadster production should shed light on the subject. The 3.0Si Roadster is available in AUTOMATIC. Quote:
And if you think Ferrari doesn't have much interest in selling cars to the average idiot car driver that has the disposable income to afford their cars, you clearly do not understand business and marketing.
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Firstly, torque converters are much smoother on engagement than the somewhat clunky double clutch units and are thus more refined in daily driving. Secondly, when starting from a stop and the torque converter is slipping, it multiplies torque and helps the car accelerate from a stop a bit faster than a clutch unit. Thirdly, torque converter autos are simpler and more reliable, not to mention cheaper to fix than DCT trannys. Fourthly, a torque converter auto usually is more durable and handles more torque than a DCT, which is one of the reasons why many DCT cars are limited in how much tuning and power upgrade you can do. And fifthly, the only real reason why DCT took off in performance cars recently was because no one can get a torque converter automatic to shift quickly enough to keep up with a DCT, so the DCT had a performance edge. That changed with the new 8L90, chevy figured out how to make it shift even faster than the PDK in the Porsche. |
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