Range Rover Sport

upstatedoc · 11-01-2013, 02:36 PM

Is this a worthy competitor to the X5? New aluminum frame saves it 800 lbs. S/C V6 makes 340hp. With similar equipment it is evenly priced with the X5.

Raja Ventureshield · 11-01-2013, 02:49 PM

it is a nice car, but I think the options list can push this car to 80k range.
the x5 is a great car if you ask me. This would be tough decision. If I wanted something that was more proven, then I would take the x5.

GeeRam · 11-01-2013, 02:56 PM

I'd take the new RRS over any X5 in a heart beat.

NemesisX · 11-01-2013, 02:59 PM

I'm actually a fan of the FX50 (now QX70) at that price range. You get a little bit more power and probably a bit more reliability compared to both the range rover and the X5. Granted, the QX70 isn't exactly in the same class (it's probably more comparable to the X3) but it's something to consider.

For exactly the same price as the range rover you get a 5.0L V8 with 390 HP/369 ft-lb torque AND the QX70 is actually an additional ~200 pounds lighter than the Range Rover.

Although looking up prices now it seems like the X5 has options above and below the QX70 that are appropriately priced (although it weighs a hell of a lot more so that's still something to consider).

F32 · 11-01-2013, 03:51 PM

Got a 2012 Sport HSE for my girlfriend. It's great for her around town, and it's been surprisingly reliable (not the norm). Didn't care to cross-shop anything because we weren't "in the market for "an SUV," we were in the market for a Range Rover...so obviously chose it over an X5.

Not a huge fan of the styling on the new one, however. It looks great, but now it just looks like a smaller version of the full-size, where as before there was some distinction. When the lease is up we'll get the Range Rover Supercharged.

KingOfJericho · 11-01-2013, 03:56 PM

The previous gen RR Sport was much more LR4 than Range Rover. This new one is a drastic improvement in almost every way, although styling is obviously personal opinion.

gonzo · 11-01-2013, 04:48 PM

RRS with the torque vectoring option.

Done.

b0bab0i · 11-01-2013, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja Ventureshield

it is a nice car, but I think the options list can push this car to 80k range.
the x5 is a great car if you ask me. This would be tough decision. If I wanted something that was more proven, then I would take the x5.

If you want an RRS right now, prepare to pay a $5-$10k markup. They came out like a month ago and theres not enough supply for the demand.

They way they are optioned from factory, MSRP's for the new RRS are 85-90k+ (not including the $5-10k markups for them)

If you get an RRS Autobiography, it MSRP's for well over $100k.

M3_WC · 11-01-2013, 08:47 PM

Is it worthy? I would take a new Range Rover Sport all day over an X5.

dtwyim · 11-01-2013, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F32

Got a 2012 Sport HSE for my girlfriend. It's great for her around town, and it's been surprisingly reliable (not the norm).

I would say it is too early to judge reliability.

335ifanatic · 11-02-2013, 12:29 AM

New RRS all day.

F32 · 11-02-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dtwyim

I would say it is too early to judge reliability.

Got it for her Valentines Day 2012. 20 months and 15K miles of almost 90% city mileage and it's been fine. Higher end cars come with the expectation of lower reliability...it's only been to the dealer twice. Once it was for stalling out at aggressive throttle input from low speed due to a fueling issue, and another time because the nav/radio stooped working. Otherwise, it's been good. Most RRs are absolute nightmares, but so long as you're not ignorant to that before purchase, most will be happy.

Mr. Liu · 11-02-2013, 05:42 PM

We have both - a new RR SE and a X5 35i Msport. The X5 drives WAY better - the RR sport's power delivery is not very smooth. fit and finish goes to the RR.

dtwyim · 11-03-2013, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F32

Got it for her Valentines Day 2012. 20 months and 15K miles of almost 90% city mileage and it's been fine. Higher end cars come with the expectation of lower reliability...it's only been to the dealer twice. Once it was for stalling out at aggressive throttle input from low speed due to a fueling issue, and another time because the nav/radio stooped working. Otherwise, it's been good. Most RRs are absolute nightmares, but so long as you're not ignorant to that before purchase, most will be happy.

Actually, when I spend more $ on a vehicle, my expectation is higher. The problem is IMO, most high end vehicles are European and there lies the potential problem with reliability. No question maintenance is more expensive for European vehicles, which should not be tied to reliability.

Raja Ventureshield · 11-03-2013, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0bab0i

If you want an RRS right now, prepare to pay a $5-$10k markup. They came out like a month ago and theres not enough supply for the demand.

They way they are optioned from factory, MSRP's for the new RRS are 85-90k+ (not including the $5-10k markups for them)

If you get an RRS Autobiography, it MSRP's for well over $100k.

yeah so true. one guy on another forum bought the new RR big monty, drove it for 5k miles and sold it for 8k higher than he paid. oh wow! I did not know they are in such high demand. I have driven few of them. They are nice, but for that much money I have put my bet on Cayenne every time.

BlackLemon · 11-04-2013, 01:16 AM

I just purchased an SUV for my wife, I did look at both the 14 RRS and the 14 x5 50i M sport. My wife couldn't get over the similarities the RRS has to the new ford explorer, We ended up with the 14 X5

DieGrüneHölle · 11-04-2013, 01:26 AM

Since BMW has completely ruined the X5, it is hideous. I wouldn't even consider it as an option.

RRS all day over the X5. But really I would take a Cayenne in this segment.

Who? · 11-05-2013, 06:01 AM

RRS any day of the week for me.

the x5 is nice, but its not the same calibre as the Range

its like comparing a 911 to an m3 imo

Soorena · 11-06-2013, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Liu

We have both - a new RR SE and a X5 35i Msport. The X5 drives WAY better - the RR sport's power delivery is not very smooth. fit and finish goes to the RR.

What engine? The 5.0 is a smooth engine. The V6 though, reminds me of old Buick V6's. What's weird is that the same powertrain in Jaguar feels better.

Mr. Liu · 11-06-2013, 10:03 AM

The SE is the base 3.0 V6 supercharged. Never driven the 5.0 supercharged.

The Sage · 11-06-2013, 02:03 PM

the new RRS with the 5.0 supercharged is a beast. never thought an suv could feel that fast. and it sounds like an f-type jag. exhaust pops and gurgles

Teutonic · 11-06-2013, 02:10 PM

Have a friend with a new RRS, only trouble since day one. They are not reliable. Now he regrets the X5.
I personally don't like the design but that is another story. In fact I like more the previous X5 too, so...

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GeeRam Major 197 Rep 1,317 Posts Drives: X5 40d SE Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Berkshire,UK iTrader: (0)	I'd take the new RRS over any X5 in a heart beat. __________________ 2017 X5 4.0dSE ~ Atlas Cedar:Ind.Amaro Brown Merino&Piano Blk, Sport Auto, DHP, Comfort seats, Cold weather pack, HK audio, Electric towbar, Sun protection glass.
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NemesisX Captain 321 Rep 905 Posts Drives: '19 Infiniti Q60S Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	I'm actually a fan of the FX50 (now QX70) at that price range. You get a little bit more power and probably a bit more reliability compared to both the range rover and the X5. Granted, the QX70 isn't exactly in the same class (it's probably more comparable to the X3) but it's something to consider. For exactly the same price as the range rover you get a 5.0L V8 with 390 HP/369 ft-lb torque AND the QX70 is actually an additional ~200 pounds lighter than the Range Rover. Although looking up prices now it seems like the X5 has options above and below the QX70 that are appropriately priced (although it weighs a hell of a lot more so that's still something to consider).
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F32 Banned 20 Rep 688 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: SF iTrader: (0)	Got a 2012 Sport HSE for my girlfriend. It's great for her around town, and it's been surprisingly reliable (not the norm). Didn't care to cross-shop anything because we weren't "in the market for "an SUV," we were in the market for a Range Rover...so obviously chose it over an X5. Not a huge fan of the styling on the new one, however. It looks great, but now it just looks like a smaller version of the full-size, where as before there was some distinction. When the lease is up we'll get the Range Rover Supercharged.
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KingOfJericho Major General 2458 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	The previous gen RR Sport was much more LR4 than Range Rover. This new one is a drastic improvement in almost every way, although styling is obviously personal opinion. __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
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gonzo Lieutenant General 10337 Rep 14,454 Posts Drives: as many as possible Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TeXXXas iTrader: (0)	RRS with the torque vectoring option. Done.
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M3_WC Brigadier General 1049 Rep 3,622 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Is it worthy? I would take a new Range Rover Sport all day over an X5.
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335ifanatic Major 56 Rep 1,091 Posts Drives: Revuelto, Urus Performante, X5 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	New RRS all day.
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Mr. Liu Lieutenant 110 Rep 569 Posts Drives: '11 M3 '14 E63 '05 E55K Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California iTrader: (1)	We have both - a new RR SE and a X5 35i Msport. The X5 drives WAY better - the RR sport's power delivery is not very smooth. fit and finish goes to the RR. __________________ Turner - Megan - Rogue Engineering - RDSport - AFe - Akra
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BlackLemon Lieutenant 37 Rep 401 Posts Drives: 13-750i, 15-Hurc., 14 X5 50i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I just purchased an SUV for my wife, I did look at both the 14 RRS and the 14 x5 50i M sport. My wife couldn't get over the similarities the RRS has to the new ford explorer, We ended up with the 14 X5
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DieGrüneHölle Colonel 1309 Rep 2,785 Posts Drives: M Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: bmw iTrader: (0)	Since BMW has completely ruined the X5, it is hideous. I wouldn't even consider it as an option. RRS all day over the X5. But really I would take a Cayenne in this segment.
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Who? Colonel 494 Rep 2,197 Posts Drives: F87 LCI Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	RRS any day of the week for me. the x5 is nice, but its not the same calibre as the Range its like comparing a 911 to an m3 imo __________________ So far: 200cell downpipe, custom exhaust, lifhtweight splitter, m4 comp seats
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Mr. Liu Lieutenant 110 Rep 569 Posts Drives: '11 M3 '14 E63 '05 E55K Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California iTrader: (1)	The SE is the base 3.0 V6 supercharged. Never driven the 5.0 supercharged. __________________ Turner - Megan - Rogue Engineering - RDSport - AFe - Akra
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The Sage Private 2 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 97m3 02m3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Mobile, AL iTrader: (1)	the new RRS with the 5.0 supercharged is a beast. never thought an suv could feel that fast. and it sounds like an f-type jag. exhaust pops and gurgles
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Teutonic Colonel 2759 Rep 2,371 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Have a friend with a new RRS, only trouble since day one. They are not reliable. Now he regrets the X5. I personally don't like the design but that is another story. In fact I like more the previous X5 too, so...
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