135 vs 335?

chaodima · 10-18-2007, 09:01 PM

any one knows wut is the different between 335 and 135. power? confortable? price? i think 335 is more exP then 135.. but the power is same.... where is the different???????

Andrew@ET · 10-18-2007, 09:08 PM

pretty sure its just like it sounds same engine less weight cheaper but not as classy as a 335.

a 135 with chip lsd and some coilovers would be a sick track car.

A418t81 · 10-18-2007, 09:11 PM

Honestly, its not out yet so why speculate. According to the 1 guys, its going to be the best thing since sliced bread. According to some 3 guys, its cheap, ugly, etc, etc, etc. Just wait for it to be released and the numbers will obviously speak for themselves. I personally think its going to be a very cool car, but not quite up to the hype thats rampant on the other board.

just4kickz · 10-18-2007, 09:15 PM

its not ugly if you get the 135i with the included Mkit

Jonmartin · 10-18-2007, 09:48 PM

I think they should face lift it before they put it in the US it's fugly theres is no excuse.

BaLLzZz · 10-18-2007, 09:55 PM

lOl its a jdm pocket rocket... No im just playing around its a car geared towards people my age. With a very powerful engine and whatnot. I think bmw is going to take buyers away from the 335 but hey there the corporation not me. And from what i heard its only about 200 pounds lighter with a smaller length/width so it will be a very nice track car modded. Stock though it seems very ugly and cheap.

uberschnell · 10-18-2007, 11:04 PM

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a 135 with chip lsd and some coilovers would be a sick track car.

So would a 335 with chip lsd and some coilovers.

normtrum · 10-18-2007, 11:07 PM

Try www.1addicts.com, they have a lot more comparison info over there.

ik999 · 10-19-2007, 03:42 AM

personally, I'm happy that BMW is bringing the 1-series over.

I just think that the coupe looks a bit odd from certain angles. The rear is definitely nice though. I wish they just brought revised versions of the 3 door and 5 door cars.

1-series 3 door hatch + n45 = great driver's car

JO3 · 10-19-2007, 04:00 AM

I really really wanted to like the 1-series, but I just can't.

Maybe if it weighed closer 3,000 lbs instead of 3,500, and it didn't look like the down syndrome BMW I could like it more.

herbz · 10-19-2007, 10:28 AM

i like it alot. if i do end up getting one down the line, i would definetely do some nice weight mods... lightweight hood/trunk, A/C delete, lightweight wheels/brakes... those mods would probably take off 100 lbs which is decent... add a piggyback/TBE and you would have a 400hp, 3250lb BMW. (the 135i is 3333lbs stock, which actually is PRETTY LIGHT by today's standards of cars, especially luxury cars).

the 1 is just about the same weight as the e46 3 series...... and i've driven the e46 plenty of times and i do believe it has a nice supple ride and great handling. i cannot really feel the weight in that car, and with so much power that will be in the 135i, it will be a friggen beast no doubt.

as for the looks, i really love the back.. it looks like an e46 from the rear which is great. the front is definetely a little awkward but with a slight spoiler you could make it work. with all that performance i'm really not gonna care what people see about the headlights. overall i think the lines of the car are nice, its sleek, small and smooth.

i think when people start putting rims, suspensions, brakes, tint, and some subtle body mods people's opinions of the looks of the 1 will change. i can def see the potential in it.

superman · 10-19-2007, 11:00 AM

I really do not see the 1 being a cheep looking car, the 3 isnt that great overall interior wise either. Actually I think the 1 series looks pretty much just as good, just smaller on the inside. As far as exterior, the 335i coupe from pics and seeing it in person, seems to be more atractive to me. I think the 1 will attract people who want a bmw, but could not afford the 335i price range. I think this is great bmw is doing this, and will definately bring more people to having a bmw. I do not think that it will be a poor man's 3 series either. That's like saying the 3 series is a poor man's 5. Also 35-40k for a car is not exactly a honda price range.

Chris

e92man · 10-20-2007, 05:53 PM

i dont think that it would be any faster cuz it has a twin exhaust. the 335i might be heavier but it has a wayyyy nicer exhaust. just my opinion

ejazbmw · 10-20-2007, 06:22 PM

style wise 335>135 hands down, but when you get to the nitty gritty performance wise I'd have to give to the 135 just because its lighter then the 335. one could only imagine what it would be like if it were to be chipped

nyc335i · 10-20-2007, 06:40 PM

people are acting like this car weights under 3000lbs...its only 200lbs less if even that from a 335i..that does not mean it will be doing a quarter mile a second faster than the 3 series...if anything it will be .1-.2 secs faster

ejazbmw · 10-20-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nyc335i

people are acting like this car weights under 3000lbs...its only 200lbs less if even that from a 335i..that does not mean it will be doing a quarter mile a second faster than the 3 series...if anything it will be .1-.2 secs faster

i can see you are one of those 335 owners that are like "why should a cheaper car get the same engine as my rare 335".......just kidding man

Robert · 10-20-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ejazbmw

style wise 335>135 hands down, but when you get to the nitty gritty performance wise I'd have to give to the 135 just because its lighter then the 335. one could only imagine what it would be like if it were to be chipped

A v2 chipped 135 with more free flowing exhausts will be buck wild. Can you imagine? I can't

ArmyBimmerDude · 10-21-2007, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbo

A v2 chipped 135 with more free flowing exhausts will be buck wild. Can you imagine? I can't

I dont have to imagine. Look at a v2 chipped 335. Same damn thing, only with style. Do people really think that a 135 is going to be dramatically different from a 335 performance wise?

Link to the 135 review on 1addicts: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1862

THE CAR WEIGHS 40kg LIGHTER THAN A 335! Its way smaller and is only 88lbs less? Plus I saw the price tag on that same forum somewhere start at $32k for the 128 and $40k for a 135.

Lord, if you wanna buy it go ahead. Hell, get the convertible. Probably only 40kg lighter than a 335 convert.

I'm sure 1 series guys are going to call this review BS Because it's not praising the car 100% of the time.....get over it.

ykspeed · 10-22-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

I dont have to imagine. Look at a v2 chipped 335. Same damn thing, only with style. Do people really think that a 135 is going to be dramatically different from a 335 performance wise?

Link to the 135 review on 1addicts: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1862

THE CAR WEIGHS 40kg LIGHTER THAN A 335! Its way smaller and is only 88lbs less? Plus I saw the price tag on that same forum somewhere start at $32k for the 128 and $40k for a 135.

Lord, if you wanna buy it go ahead. Hell, get the convertible. Probably only 40kg lighter than a 335 convert.

I'm sure 1 series guys are going to call this review BS Because it's not praising the car 100% of the time.....get over it.

Since the car is not for sale yet, people have been throwing all kinds of numbers around. If you look at BMW's website, you'll see that the 135 is 260lbs lighter than a 335. Many magazines have said only about 100lbs, but I trust BMW. Also, many have said high $30k, but the most consistent figure is low-mid $30k. BMW themselves said that the 135 will start somewhere around the low $30k range. I know, it's hard for some 335 owners to accept. I would be one of those guys if i had a 335 since i care more about performance than looks, etc.

Los Angeles · 10-22-2007, 01:45 AM

$40k for a loaded 1-series?

Haha! Fuck that!

Hell, $30k for that midget sized car is crazy.

ykspeed · 10-22-2007, 01:49 AM

how is $30k for a midget sized car crazy if it has a N54, 6pot brakes, etc.

I guess it depends on how you look at it. From a performance standpoint, it's a good deal. It will be in the same price range as an sti/evo and should perform similarly while not having the ricer image.

rpa · 10-22-2007, 01:56 AM

135 will be a nice car. Looks like it'll be a bit more performance oriented than the 335 (better brakes, lighter, bit of M work on it). Not an ugly car but I just feel the 335 is MUCH better looking exterior wise. The lines on the 3 series are amazing to me. The 1 may have a better interior though.

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chaodima Enlisted Member 8 Rep 32 Posts Drives: BMW 335I Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ROSEMEAD iTrader: (0)	135 vs 335? any one knows wut is the different between 335 and 135. power? confortable? price? i think 335 is more exP then 135.. but the power is same.... where is the different???????
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Andrew@ET Brigadier General 195 Rep 4,037 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	pretty sure its just like it sounds same engine less weight cheaper but not as classy as a 335. a 135 with chip lsd and some coilovers would be a sick track car.
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BaLLzZz Colonel 130 Rep 2,298 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (5)	lOl its a jdm pocket rocket... No im just playing around its a car geared towards people my age. With a very powerful engine and whatnot. I think bmw is going to take buyers away from the 335 but hey there the corporation not me. And from what i heard its only about 200 pounds lighter with a smaller length/width so it will be a very nice track car modded. Stock though it seems very ugly and cheap. __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein 01 e46 m54 - Current : 14 f10 n26 - Boring & Gone : 15 f30 n26 - Current : 08 e92 n54 - Gone & Missed!!!
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ik999 Lieutenant 25 Rep 497 Posts Drives: e90 335i f32 435xi Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: gta iTrader: (0)	personally, I'm happy that BMW is bringing the 1-series over. I just think that the coupe looks a bit odd from certain angles. The rear is definitely nice though. I wish they just brought revised versions of the 3 door and 5 door cars. 1-series 3 door hatch + n45 = great driver's car
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JO3 Lieutenant 14 Rep 566 Posts Drives: a lot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA iTrader: (8)	I really really wanted to like the 1-series, but I just can't. Maybe if it weighed closer 3,000 lbs instead of 3,500, and it didn't look like the down syndrome BMW I could like it more.
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herbz hi 98 Rep 837 Posts Drives: '86 325e Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: outside boston MA iTrader: (0)	i like it alot. if i do end up getting one down the line, i would definetely do some nice weight mods... lightweight hood/trunk, A/C delete, lightweight wheels/brakes... those mods would probably take off 100 lbs which is decent... add a piggyback/TBE and you would have a 400hp, 3250lb BMW. (the 135i is 3333lbs stock, which actually is PRETTY LIGHT by today's standards of cars, especially luxury cars). the 1 is just about the same weight as the e46 3 series...... and i've driven the e46 plenty of times and i do believe it has a nice supple ride and great handling. i cannot really feel the weight in that car, and with so much power that will be in the 135i, it will be a friggen beast no doubt. as for the looks, i really love the back.. it looks like an e46 from the rear which is great. the front is definetely a little awkward but with a slight spoiler you could make it work. with all that performance i'm really not gonna care what people see about the headlights. overall i think the lines of the car are nice, its sleek, small and smooth. i think when people start putting rims, suspensions, brakes, tint, and some subtle body mods people's opinions of the looks of the 1 will change. i can def see the potential in it.
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superman Private 19 Rep 88 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 135i silver Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	I really do not see the 1 being a cheep looking car, the 3 isnt that great overall interior wise either. Actually I think the 1 series looks pretty much just as good, just smaller on the inside. As far as exterior, the 335i coupe from pics and seeing it in person, seems to be more atractive to me. I think the 1 will attract people who want a bmw, but could not afford the 335i price range. I think this is great bmw is doing this, and will definately bring more people to having a bmw. I do not think that it will be a poor man's 3 series either. That's like saying the 3 series is a poor man's 5. Also 35-40k for a car is not exactly a honda price range. Chris
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e92man Lieutenant Colonel 62 Rep 1,719 Posts Drives: modded e92 335i coupe Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: north florida iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 e92 335i coupe [0.00]	i dont think that it would be any faster cuz it has a twin exhaust. the 335i might be heavier but it has a wayyyy nicer exhaust. just my opinion __________________ e92 335i jet black, coral red, aluminum, sport, step, paddles, heated seats, pdc, bmw aluminum pedals, oem aero kit front lip, 19' miro type 366 hamann race edition reps, H&R sport springs, 15% tints, vorsteiner rear deck spoiler, custom front pdc "The only cars that should be yellow are taxi cabs and school busses."
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ejazbmw blahhh 318 Rep 6,355 Posts Drives: 2014 M235I Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NJ/NY iTrader: (7)	style wise 335>135 hands down, but when you get to the nitty gritty performance wise I'd have to give to the 135 just because its lighter then the 335. one could only imagine what it would be like if it were to be chipped
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nyc335i Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 223 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	people are acting like this car weights under 3000lbs...its only 200lbs less if even that from a 335i..that does not mean it will be doing a quarter mile a second faster than the 3 series...if anything it will be .1-.2 secs faster
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Los Angeles Steve Forte Rio 153 Rep 2,392 Posts Drives: 08' 328i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 90036 iTrader: (0)	$40k for a loaded 1-series? Haha! Fuck that! Hell, $30k for that midget sized car is crazy.
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ykspeed New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 02 wrx Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: baltimore, md iTrader: (0)	how is $30k for a midget sized car crazy if it has a N54, 6pot brakes, etc. I guess it depends on how you look at it. From a performance standpoint, it's a good deal. It will be in the same price range as an sti/evo and should perform similarly while not having the ricer image.
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10-22-2007, 01:56 AM	#22
rpa Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: waiting for it... Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	135 will be a nice car. Looks like it'll be a bit more performance oriented than the 335 (better brakes, lighter, bit of M work on it). Not an ugly car but I just feel the 335 is MUCH better looking exterior wise. The lines on the 3 series are amazing to me. The 1 may have a better interior though.
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