Would you buy from this dealer?

bga23 · 08-22-2013, 04:35 PM

I contacted a small town Ford dealer about a used Ford Raptor and asked if it was CPO'd. He said they don't sell sell certified cars/trucks, he isn't aware of Ford doing this (they do).

If the CPO thing isn't a big deal to me would you overlook that the salesman clearly has no clue about his product or is this a deal-breaker? Truck isn't local so I can't just pop in to check her out.

e90inAZ · 08-22-2013, 04:59 PM

Kinda makes you wonder if they don't know that, what else are they naive about?

kscarrol · 08-22-2013, 06:35 PM

Find this lack of knowledge is generally the norm and certainly not limited to this dealer or Ford. Had one BMW sales guy at my dealer try to explain how my wife's new X5 was being shipped from Germany. He was shocked to learn from me that they are built in South Carolina!

Ignorance is the norm I find so educate yourself. Perhaps you should educate this dealer about Ford's CPO/pre-owned program and see if you can make a deal...

bga23 · 08-22-2013, 07:25 PM

I find it sad when I know more about the car than a salesman. Dude, it is your job to sell cars, learn your product.

kscarrol · 08-22-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bga23

I find it sad when I know more about the car than a salesman. Dude, it is your job to sell cars, learn your product.

Agreed!!!

Rodzilla · 08-22-2013, 08:04 PM

It is sad when people who work in sales for a living, can just be lazy and flat out tell a person "no". The salesman should have said to to let me call you back and then he should have tried to confirm the request of the potential customer.

Mr Tonka · 08-22-2013, 09:46 PM

When i bought my first E46 M3 the sales guy told me that the sport button firmed up the suspension and made the steering heavier.....

All of them suck and 99.9999% don't know shit about their product.

BananaCar · 08-23-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodzilla

It is sad when people who work in sales for a living, can just be lazy and flat out tell a person "no". The salesman should have said to to let me call you back and then he should have tried to confirm the request of the potential customer.

I personally think it's the personality of sales people. More so there are the typical selfish, entitled and low education that make zero or no effort. While holding questionable business and moral ethics that will essentially try to get every cent out of you.

Difference of someone who does not know the answer in the corporate environment would "let me confirm that answer by getting back to you!" Rather than an out right lie.

miiipilot · 08-23-2013, 10:34 AM

Car sales is less about sales and more about the manipulation of people.

Most people are sheeple. We are an enthusiast community. We choose to know. Others have no interest in knowing.

MidwestGolfBum · 08-23-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by miiipilot

Car sales is less about sales and more about the manipulation of people.

Most people are sheeple. We are an enthusiast community. We choose to know. Others have no interest in knowing.

This is 100% true. I have a buddy who is in Toyota sales and has told me most people just come in could give a shit less about what the features actually add and more about the does it do x, y or z being some menial feature like Bluetooth.

Maestro · 08-23-2013, 10:52 AM

This is why I never talked to a sales guy when buying a car, I usually go directly to the sales manager since I refuse to pay for a sales guy commission when in fact they do nothing to help.

mccannable · 08-23-2013, 11:51 AM

When the frs came out I went to look and it tool the salesman 10 min to open the trunk turns out they have a button on the key fob.

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bga23 Dirty old man 67 Rep 493 Posts Drives: 2021 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (0)	Would you buy from this dealer? I contacted a small town Ford dealer about a used Ford Raptor and asked if it was CPO'd. He said they don't sell sell certified cars/trucks, he isn't aware of Ford doing this (they do). If the CPO thing isn't a big deal to me would you overlook that the salesman clearly has no clue about his product or is this a deal-breaker? Truck isn't local so I can't just pop in to check her out.
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e90inAZ Private 7 Rep 65 Posts Drives: '14 S1000RR Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Tucson, AZ iTrader: (0)	Kinda makes you wonder if they don't know that, what else are they naive about?
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kscarrol Brigadier General 9840 Rep 4,137 Posts Drives: 2021 X3 M40i, 1974 2002 Tii Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (0)	Find this lack of knowledge is generally the norm and certainly not limited to this dealer or Ford. Had one BMW sales guy at my dealer try to explain how my wife's new X5 was being shipped from Germany. He was shocked to learn from me that they are built in South Carolina! Ignorance is the norm I find so educate yourself. Perhaps you should educate this dealer about Ford's CPO/pre-owned program and see if you can make a deal... __________________ 2021 X3 M40i 1974 2002tii, Inka, 5 sp manual BMWCCA # 327475
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bga23 Dirty old man 67 Rep 493 Posts Drives: 2021 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (0)	I find it sad when I know more about the car than a salesman. Dude, it is your job to sell cars, learn your product.
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Mr Tonka is probably out riding. 6062 Rep 2,292 Posts Drives: Something Italian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweatypeninsula iTrader: (0)	When i bought my first E46 M3 the sales guy told me that the sport button firmed up the suspension and made the steering heavier..... All of them suck and 99.9999% don't know shit about their product. __________________ "There is no greater tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of the law and in the name of justice. -Charles de Secondat"
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mccannable First Lieutenant 211 Rep 347 Posts Drives: 2014 X1 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: central fl iTrader: (2)	When the frs came out I went to look and it tool the salesman 10 min to open the trunk turns out they have a button on the key fob.
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