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      02-19-2011, 08:40 AM   #1
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What Do You Think? Is it the Cops Fault or the BMW Driver

A very interesting traffic article to read

http://www.laweekly.com/2011-02-10/n...wn-in-redondo/
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      02-19-2011, 11:51 AM   #2
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I have much respect for our police officers and don't think I am against them... but I have always thought about this fact. I really, really hate how cops tailgate you. I understand the reasoning they want to stay close in case you book it, but what happens if the opposite happens? What happens if a cat jumps out into the street and I don't feel like killing pussy today? I wish they would back off a little...
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      02-19-2011, 12:14 PM   #3
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I think both could be at fault here, the guy braked way too hard while the cop followed too closely. However, if you actually read the article it says they have two eyewitness that support the defendant so the cop could be at wrong here. It's a real shame if the cop indeed lies.

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      02-19-2011, 12:29 PM   #4
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"After that, Redondo Beach Detective Mike Strosnider invited Hitchcock to a let's-be-friends lunch at Subway on the pretext that the investigation was over. It wasn't. Strosnider secretly recorded the lunch in hopes of capturing incriminating comments, but came up empty, according to his own report."

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wow, how stupid are cops? Poor guy gets rear ended by a cop who is up his ass!

Then they record him while eating lunch. I say this guy should open up a counter lawsuit. Why are the cops trying to fuck him? This is BS
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BTW if a cop rear ended me I would put it in reverse and run him over

just saying...lol
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Cop is at fault. 2-3 feet? Imagine 2-3 feet with your hands right now. That is WAY too close to be following someone in a car, never mind a motorcycle... Then to turn on your siren which automatically triggers a "brake and look" response in everyone... that's just asking for trouble.
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      02-19-2011, 02:35 PM   #8
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hard call. my sympathy goes out to the BMW driver just for his age and having the convertible down i can totally see how this happened.

I personally think the cop would be a at fault because its his job to asses possible situation and react accordingly especially if he is the one engaging another person.

but over all the should just scrub it, both parts walk away and agree to fix their property and be done with it

but very interesting find

Thanks for sharing
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wow, how stupid are cops? Poor guy gets rear ended by a cop who is up his ass!

Then they record him while eating lunch. I say this guy should open up a counter lawsuit. Why are the cops trying to fuck him? This is BS
Isn't it illegal to record a conversation in California without their consent?
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BTW if a cop rear ended me I would put it in reverse and run him over

just saying...lol
Yeah. Sure you would.

Cop in this case is a douche. Strip him of his badge and get one less douchebag cop off the streets. It's guys like this that make it so the decent cops have to deal with the pig stereotype.
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Cop should be fired and charged with filing a false report, his bosses should be demoted/fired, and the prosecutor should be relieved of their position. All of them are abusing their power and trying to take the blame off the police officer and place it on a innocent driver.

I normally would take a cops side, but in this case two independent witnesses both corroborated the story of the driver. The police WAY overstepped their boundaries. Why was he even pulling over the BMW in the first place? The guy was stopped at a light so he wasn't speeding and he didn't accelerate away at a fast pace according to the witnesses.

I hope the driver wins and sues the prosecutor, the police department, and the officer.
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Cop should be fired and charged with filing a false report, his bosses should be demoted/fired, and the prosecutor should be relieved of their position. All of them are abusing their power and trying to take the blame off the police officer and place it on a innocent driver.

I normally would take a cops side, but in this case two independent witnesses both corroborated the story of the driver. The police WAY overstepped their boundaries. Why was he even pulling over the BMW in the first place? The guy was stopped at a light so he wasn't speeding and he didn't accelerate away at a fast pace according to the witnesses.

I hope the driver winds and sues the prosecutor, the police department, and the officer.
Agree with most of this.

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This is a curious situation. And, we are all basing our opinions on a single media sources version of the story. Without really knowing what happened prior to the crash, its unrealistic to make snap judgements.

I have witnessed so many rage events while on patrol that its possible there was a prolonged incident that preceded the crash.

No matter what, the officer has a responsibility to maintain a safe distance while initiating a traffic stop and he clearly didn't do that. If the fact of the case are true as presented, it looks like the PD trying to CYA, and that's plain wrong. Its also very easy to disprove so I question whether or not the story we've heard is complete.
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"After that, Redondo Beach Detective Mike Strosnider invited Hitchcock to a let's-be-friends lunch at Subway on the pretext that the investigation was over. It wasn't. Strosnider secretly recorded the lunch in hopes of capturing incriminating comments, but came up empty, according to his own report."

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+1 what that cop is doing is just so wrong in so many different levels.
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This is a curious situation. And, we are all basing our opinions on a single media sources version of the story. Without really knowing what happened prior to the crash, its unrealistic to make snap judgements.

I have witnessed so many rage events while on patrol that its possible there was a prolonged incident that preceded the crash.

No matter what, the officer has a responsibility to maintain a safe distance while initiating a traffic stop and he clearly didn't do that. If the fact of the case are true as presented, it looks like the PD trying to CYA, and that's plain wrong. Its also very easy to disprove so I question whether or not the story we've heard is complete.
Sorry, but it is obvious to see that the driver's story is accurate based on the visiual evidence. The 323i cabrio is barely damaged, scuffed bumper and dented trunk, and the cop landed 3 feet from his bike into the back seat of the car. It was a low speed collision. What the article didn't report is why the cop was pulling over the BMW in the first place. They were both at the light next to each other. If the BMW driver did some previous infraction before they both stopped at the light, why didn't the cop just lean over to the BMW driver and tell him to pull over? The cop just decided to hassle to BMW driver and fucked up. He diserved his "soft tissue" damage IMO.
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That would be called guilt. Karma strikes again.
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Sounds like an ass got caught being an ass and is trying to cover it up by being an ass with the help of all the asses he can find.
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