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      09-22-2010, 01:23 AM   #1
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Got Pulled Over- Can I fight the power?

So, pull on to this one-way street, 2 lanes, both going the same direction. I am behind one of our "Cat-tran" busses (VERY SLOW, lots of stops). So, I pull into the right lane, behind the bus, then quickly pass using the left lane. I was doing probably 35ish, speed limited posted is 20. I slow down and keep driving for 30 secs or so and pull up to a stop sign (and fully stop) I see flashing lights in the mirror, this unmarked comes from at least 150 feet behind me pulls me over. Dum de dum, I get a ticket for 10 over, after telling the cop I had accelerated for overtaking. No sympathy from the devil.


Oh, brilliant e90posters, what should I do? Do I have a chance in court?
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Cops are just dicks sometimes. Maybe he was a new cop who hasn't developed a good judgment call yet.

If you have a few points on your driving record, I say go fight it. Heck the cop might not even show up in court. Sometimes it's just easier to pay the fine and go to traffic school. Good Luck.
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So, pull on to this one-way street, 2 lanes, both going the same direction. I am behind one of our "Cat-tran" busses (VERY SLOW, lots of stops). So, I pull into the right lane, behind the bus, then quickly pass using the left lane. I was doing probably 35ish, speed limited posted is 20. I slow down and keep driving for 30 secs or so and pull up to a stop sign (and fully stop) I see flashing lights in the mirror, this unmarked comes from at least 150 feet behind me pulls me over. Dum de dum, I get a ticket for 10 over, after telling the cop I had accelerated for overtaking. No sympathy from the devil.


Oh, brilliant e90posters, what should I do? Do I have a chance in court?
You can fight it, but you wont win. You got caught speeding and, to your misfortune, there's really nothing you can do about it.
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You can fight it, but you wont win. You got caught speeding and, to your misfortune, there's really nothing you can do about it.
meh, that's kind of what I though. Such Arizona police bullshit. Literally, some of the worst police I have ever had the misfortune to deal with.
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meh, that's kind of what I though. Such Arizona police bullshit. Literally, some of the worst police I have ever had the misfortune to deal with.
Your best chance is showing up in court and hopefully the officer won't show. This doesn't mean you'll automatically win though, as the judge can grant the prosecution a continuance. This doesn't happen all the frequently from what I've heard, so if the cop doesn't show it's more likely that your ticket will be dismissed. Then again, the odds are the cop will show.
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lol 35 in a 20 whats it to do wit arizona
& more importantly, why the fuss, how much is the ticket $50?
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lol 35 in a 20 whats it to do wit arizona
& more importantly, why the fuss, how much is the ticket $50?
Is there anywhere in the Country where a moving violation is $50?? Parking tix in NYC are $150.00. 10 over the limit in my area is at least a $200.00 fine + fees.
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did they check your citizenship papers?
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Cops are just dicks sometimes. Maybe he was a new cop who hasn't developed a good judgment call yet.

If you have a few points on your driving record, I say go fight it. Heck the cop might not even show up in court. Sometimes it's just easier to pay the fine and go to traffic school. Good Luck.
Huh? 15 miles over on a city street and the cop was being a dick? I am confused. Perhaps the OP could have been more patient and just waited for an opportunity to pass at a more reasonable speed when the bus made one of its "many" stops.

OP: My experience has been that cops are less forgiving when speeding occurs in low speed areas. Just be more patient next time. I know it sucks, but getting another ticket will suck even more. I don't see you getting out of this one.
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Yeah, "10 over" when the speed limit is 20 MPH is going 50% over the limit. Areas that are 20 MPH are usually school zones or high pedestrian areas.

You admit to the speeding, so what's the problem? Sometimes you get caught, sometimes you don't....
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Huh? 15 miles over on a city street and the cop was being a dick? I am confused. Perhaps the OP could have been more patient and just waited for an opportunity to pass at a more reasonable speed when the bus made one of its "many" stops.
C'mon dude. The cop could have easily let it go. He was going 35 just to pass the bus; it's not like he was trying to race another car or driving recklessly. He slowed down after he passed the bus. He was going 35 mph for 2 seconds and the cops gives him a ticket? That's being a dick bro.
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C'mon dude. The cop could have easily let it go. He was going 35 just to pass the bus; it's not like he was trying to race another car or driving recklessly. He slowed down after he passed the bus. He was going 35 mph for 2 seconds and the cops gives him a ticket? That's being a dick bro.
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C'mon dude. The cop could have easily let it go. He was going 35 just to pass the bus; it's not like he was trying to race another car or driving recklessly. He slowed down after he passed the bus. He was going 35 mph for 2 seconds and the cops gives him a ticket? That's being a dick bro.
But with two lanes going in the same direction, why would you need to accelerate to 35 MPH to pass the bus? On a back country road with only one lane of travel in each direction, I could see that. But I don't see the need when you have two lanes.

He got popped for speeding, which he admitted he was doing. And "slowed down" after passing the bus doesn't mean anything, maybe he only slowed to 30 MPH, which is still 10 over. Any more, 10 over gets you a ticket. Hell, with the coffers so lean in many cities, I'd surprised if 5 over doesn't get you a ticket....
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C'mon dude. The cop could have easily let it go. He was going 35 just to pass the bus; it's not like he was trying to race another car or driving recklessly. He slowed down after he passed the bus. He was going 35 mph for 2 seconds and the cops gives him a ticket? That's being a dick bro.
Since when is a cop obligated to "let it go" when someone is nearly double the posted speed limit? As for the bolded text above, I'm rather amused that you think that matters as this is how people get popped in radar speed traps all the time!
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But with two lanes going in the same direction, why would you need to accelerate to 35 MPH to pass the bus? On a back country road with only one lane of travel in each direction, I could see that. But I don't see the need when you have two lanes.

He got popped for speeding, which he admitted he was doing. And "slowed down" after passing the bus doesn't mean anything, maybe he only slowed to 30 MPH, which is still 10 over. Any more, 10 over gets you a ticket. Hell, with the coffers so lean in many cities, I'd surprised if 5 over doesn't get you a ticket....
I totally agree with you. Maybe that was the case. who knows.

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Since when is a cop obligated to "let it go" when someone is nearly double the posted speed limit? As for the bolded text above, I'm rather amused that you think that matters as this is how people get popped in radar speed traps all the time!
You must me a cop.

So defensive...geeez.
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You must me a cop.

So defensive...geeez.


Not a cop and not trying to bust up your balls. I'm not being defensive, just realistic. I speed all the time on the highway (80-85 in a 65) and I know if my radar detector doesn't alert me soon enough, or if I just get careless, that I'm going to get a ticket. That's simply the price of admission. I'm not going to blame the cop for doing his/her job.

And even though I speed on the highway, I NEVER speed in residential or city streets because I know cops are far less forgiving when people speed in pedestrian zones.

Just gotta be patient and more careful.
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Cops are just dicks sometimes. Maybe he was a new cop who hasn't developed a good judgment call yet.
Yes we are. In fact, it's part of our training in the "Developing good judgement call and knowing when to ignore it." They actually show your picture in the class too.
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Not a cop and not trying to bust up your balls. I'm not being defensive, just realistic. I speed all the time on the highway (80-85 in a 65) and I know if my radar detector doesn't alert me soon enough, or if I just get careless, that I'm going to get a ticket. That's simply the price of admission. I'm not going to blame the cop for doing his/her job.

And even though I speed on the highway, I NEVER speed in residential or city streets because I know cops are far less forgiving when people speed in pedestrian zones.

Just gotta be patient and more careful.
Yeah I agree. I never ever speed in residential/ or city streets.

I got careless and got busted a year go for driving 80 in a 75 zone on I-15 on my way to Vegas. I had to go to traffic school for 5 mph. If you can't tell already, that left a bitter taste in my mouth. I totally get the fact that the cop is doing his/her job.

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Yes we are. In fact, it's part of our training in the "Developing good judgement call and knowing when to ignore it." They actually show your picture in the class too.
Haha...I knew it. So I was right!
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Yeah I agree. I never ever speed in residential/ or city streets.

I got careless and got busted a year go for driving 80 in a 75 zone on I-15 on my way to Vegas. I had to go to traffic school for 5 mph. If you can't tell already, that left a bitter taste in my mouth. I totally get the fact that the cop is doing his/her job.
Wow! Traffic school for only 5 mph over? Damn, I'd be pissed too! Guys out here don't even lift an eyebrow for something like that on the highway.
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So, pull on to this one-way street, 2 lanes, both going the same direction. I am behind one of our "Cat-tran" busses (VERY SLOW, lots of stops). So, I pull into the right lane, behind the bus, then quickly pass using the left lane. I was doing probably 35ish, speed limited posted is 20. I slow down and keep driving for 30 secs or so and pull up to a stop sign (and fully stop) I see flashing lights in the mirror, this unmarked comes from at least 150 feet behind me pulls me over. Dum de dum, I get a ticket for 10 over, after telling the cop I had accelerated for overtaking. No sympathy from the devil.


Oh, brilliant e90posters, what should I do? Do I have a chance in court?
bad move. why did you tell him that you speed up to pass. that basically mean you admitted you did speed. if it was me, i would tell the copy i wasn't speeding. never admit it.

either way, go to court always.
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