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      04-07-2010, 12:28 PM   #1
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GM reports 4.3 billion loss July-Dec

http://detnews.com/article/20100407/AUTO01/4070391/1148/auto01/GM-posts-$4.3-billion-loss-in-July-December-period

can they fail anymore as a company, i hope we dont find out and they shut the shit down

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Well duh. That's July-Dec of 2009. That's immediately after the bailout. They were going through many changes, getting rid of unprofittable products, trying (unsuccessfully) to sell brands, reorganizing upper management... etc. They also dealt with a lot of worry on the public's side as far as "will they be stable after bankruptcy?"

I would think Jan-June, 2010 will be a better representation. GM is still corrupt from the inside and still getting away from their crap products. Sales rates have risen this year now that consumer confidence is rising, products are improving, and more.


Btw, fwiw, July-December is not a "quarter". May want to change your title.
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Well duh. That's July-Dec of 2009. That's immediately after the bailout. They were going through many changes, getting rid of unprofittable products, trying (unsucsessfully) to sell brands, reorganizing upper management... etc. They also dealt with a lot of worry on the public's side as far as "will they be stable after bankruptcy?"

I would think Jan-June, 2010 will be a better representation. GM is still corrupt from the inside and still getting away from their crap products. Sales rates have risen this year now that consumer confidence is rising, products are improving, and more.


Btw, fwiw, July-December is not a "quarter". May want to change your title.
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Well duh. That's July-Dec of 2009. That's immediately after the bailout. They were going through many changes, getting rid of unprofittable products, trying (unsucsessfully) to sell brands, reorganizing upper management... etc. They also dealt with a lot of worry on the public's side as far as "will they be stable after bankruptcy?"

I would think Jan-June, 2010 will be a better representation. GM is still corrupt from the inside and still getting away from their crap products. Sales rates have risen this year now that consumer confidence is rising, products are improving, and more.


Btw, fwiw, July-December is not a "quarter". May want to change your title.
fixed, but i dont know if they are going to be able to pull this out even after all of that bailout money... they are at $.56 stock right now and dont see it moving anytime soon

they need to liquidate every corp executive they have and restart
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I love the GMC Terrain. I'm buying that for my father.
i dont think their vehicles are horrible, even the best cars have problems(ex. our beloved brand), and atleast theirs is a cheap fix...its their executives out golfing with their million's of bonus money every year for doing not a damn thing that is hurting them...they need to hire people like hyundai's corporate exec's
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fixed, but i dont know if they are going to be able to pull this out even after all of that bailout money... they are at $.56 stock right now and dont see it moving anytime soon

they need to liquidate every corp executive they have and restart
What stock? GM is now a private company. Maybe you mean Motors Liquidation( used to be General Motors Corporation which was publicly traded).

They did get rid of LaNeve, Wagoner, Fritz, and many other executives that led GM into the ground. They brought in new faces( Whitacre and Liddell) or brought up executives from their international operations like Reuss who had success running Holden.
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What stock? GM is now a private company. Maybe you mean Motors Liquidation( used to be General Motors Corporation which was publicly traded).

They did get rid of LaNeve, Wagoner, Fritz, and many other executives that led GM into the ground. They brought in new faces( Whitacre and Liddell) or brought up executives from their international operations like Reuss who had success running Holden.
yea thats what i meant ML, i would love to take advantage of GM(ML) if they can pull out like Ford, $1.26 to $10 in a year
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yea thats what i meant ML, i would love to take advantage of GM(ML) if they can pull out like Ford, $1.26 to $10 in a year
I fully doubt Motors Liquidation will pull out...... That is the bad assets. Motors Liquidation is still in bankruptcy and will eventually liquidate once everything is settled and sold.
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It's now Government Motors. Anything the government touches turns to shit.
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It's now Government Motors. Anything the government touches turns to shit.
Acctually they are called MOTORS LIQUIDATION CO (MTLQQ) and the stock is currently at $0.57 a share.
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Acctually they are called MOTORS LIQUIDATION CO (MTLQQ) and the stock is currently at $0.57 a share.
The old GM is ML. When GM entered Chapter 11, a 363 motion was granted which a government setup company bought GM's good assets. While the bad ones remain in bankruptcy for eventual liquidation. The new government owned company then exited bankruptcy and changed its name to General Motors Company.
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Actually they are called MOTORS LIQUIDATION CO (MTLQQ) and the stock is currently at $0.57 a share.
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