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      04-05-2010, 10:58 AM   #1
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Hey all you buisiness majors!

I'm going to college next year and want to get my buisiness degree and tie that into marketing.

Does anyone have any idea what would be the best way to approach being successful when getting out of college
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      04-05-2010, 10:59 AM   #2
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My advice is to stay in school as long as you can afford to. Get as many qualifications as you can and wait for the job market to heat up again.
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Ignore the liberals while your in college, work to remove them and discredit them while you there and take every chance you get to remind them of the founding. Remember after you leave you will find there is isn't anything dumber a college professor. Their professional students and live in a very closed world one which you will never operate in the future after school.

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Be careful with Marketing, the perception of many Marketing majors is they couldn't cut it in a harder, more math oriented major like accounting or finance, I realized this is in college. My advice with Marketing would be to double major with something like Accounting or Finance allowing you to broaden your ability to land a job once you graduate. Also look into internships (paid or unpaid) just to build up the resume.
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Ignore the liberals while your in college (Period cap the W) , work to remove them and discredit them while you there and take every chance you get to remind them of the founding. Remember(comma) after you leave (comma) you will find there is isn't (seriously dude?)anything dumber (than) a college professor. Their (They're or they are) professional students and live in a very closed world (comma) one (in) which you will never operate in the future (comma) after school.

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This coming from someone having trouble grasping the basic spelling and grammar of the English language.
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To be honest, it’s probably a little early to be thinking about getting a job. It’s good that you have a focus area, but understand that your future is wide open. Hell, you might take an operations or business law class and completely fall in love with another major, or you might just decide to become an architect, graphic designer, copywriter, etc. etc. and decide business just isn’t your thing.

I graduated with degrees in Marketing and Japanese. My road to finding my first job was arduous and long. You have to understand that you’re nothing special. Unless you graduated at the top of your class in a highly specialized field, the working world doesn’t care about your degree or class work. They want to see skills, experience, and want to know who you know. It was a hard fact to face. The good news is that if you work hard at it, you will eventually get your first job. The even better news is that most of the people you work with will be total bumbling idiots. If you have even a modicum of determination and work ethic you will be able to quickly inch your way up the corporate ladder.

Take every opportunity you can to get to know your peers, professors, and friends, parent’s friends, and your friends’ parents both in and outside of a professional environment. You never know who can help you out when you graduate. Take advantage of school placement programs, internships, and always be participating in extracurricular activities. Learn how to use the latest technology like Photoshop, Maya, or Final Cut Pro. Pick up a secondary skill set like programming or management. Do anything and everything you can to differentiate yourself from your peers. I’m not telling you to be a total Poindexter and sit at home every night nerding it up with books and lines of code. I am merely suggesting that you spend a couple hours a week over the next four years working on something productive with a goal of getting a good job when you graduate. The hard work will pay off in the end.

Or you could just get drunk 3 days a week, skip classes, scrape by for 4-5 years and cross your fingers when it comes time to start sending apps out. Your call!
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      04-05-2010, 11:44 AM   #7
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I would recommend not majoring in marketing. First of all, it is heavily dominated by females. Second, i would try to get a degree in something like finance or accounting. Even with a degree in finance, you can still get a job in marketing if thats what you want. But a finance degree will be better in the long run.

Everyone who graduates from the business school im in, my class is very small (80 kids), you get a degree in Business management. Then you have a focus inside that like finance, marketing, econ, ect... Than you are required to have a minor in a field outside of the business school. When you get to college you will start to get a much better idea of how things work, trust me.

And honestly the most important thing in college is networking. Probably the most important thing when it comes to getting a good job period. Knowing people will set you up with internships and jobs that you would never had been able to get otherwise.

I know three kids graduating my business school that will be making $115-150K there first year out and a lot of it had to do with networking and knowing people who got them jobs.
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I would pick a different major. As a professor once said, "An Accounting major can do Marketing or Management, but a Marketing or Management major cannot do Accounting." Essentially, if you are naturally good at managing people or selling products, you can find a job in Marketing or Management, but nobody is born with the ability/knowledge to do accounting with no training.
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Do a real job...somethign hard core like engineering or science based.

dont be a floozy
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If you do decide marketing, find a focus in interactive marketing - internet / mobile / digital / ecommerce / etc. Will give you a good nitch, and jobs in this area tend to be better paying.
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You got lots of good advice which is plan to have some sort of complementary skill since my person experience is that I never seen a person working in Marketing who was right out of college. Most every marking person I meet came up the ranks in a company they usually come out of some other function in a company like product development or sales or associated function. In order to market a product you need to understand the companies product, who the customers are and the markets. Most recent grade do not have an appreciation of the products and all the required knowledge to really market a product so the real world experience is a must
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I would suggest not business or marketing. Those are the easiest majors and are a dime a dozen. Go for something like Accounting (mentioned above) and you can do just about anything with it. It is easier to go accounting to business than the other way around.
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I know three kids graduating my business school that will be making $115-150K there first year out and a lot of it had to do with networking and knowing people who got them jobs.
They have some great parents. That is probably the only way to network with high enough people to land a grossly overpaid starting position straight out of college.
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They have some great parents. That is probably the only way to network with high enough people to land a grossly overpaid starting position straight out of college.
Well when you land jobs at companies like Goldman Sachs, Citi group ect... you are paid pretty nicely, even if its your first year.

And it wasn't their parents BTW. Just connections
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Hey all you buisiness majors!

I'm going to college next year and want to get my buisiness degree and tie that into marketing.

Does anyone have any idea what would be the best way to approach being successful when getting out of college
I was a Finance major at Texas A&M (transfer from Univ of Colorado), class of ‘06. I would highly recommend getting a degree in something other than Marketing. Out of all business majors (Finance, Accounting, Management, Marketing), Finance and Accounting at the most difficult, but yield the best job opportunities. A Marketing degree really gets you no where. I really liked marketing and thought it was extremely interesting, but getting a job with that degree sucks unless you want to do sales. Go with Finc/Acct if you want to learn something useful and have a chance at a decent paying career.

But, that being said, if I could go back in time, I would major in engineering, probably mechanical. My brother and my roommate were both Mech Eng, and they are banking. Not to mention while I sit in a cubie all day, my roommate works every other month in Africa. Africa may not be your cup of tea, but they go everywhere around the world, and do interesting stuff. Business majors don’t get anything interesting until they move into upper management. Get an engineering degree, then your MBA and you’re set for life.
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Ignore the liberals while your in college, work to remove them and discredit them while you there and take every chance you get to remind them of the founding. Remember after you leave you will find there is isn't anything dumber a college professor. Their professional students and live in a very closed world one which you will never operate in the future after school.

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Wow, your grammar is God awful. You give a sad name to people from Houston. "Closed Worlds" is when you ignore people with different views just because you disagree with them.

Please learn the difference between your, you're, and their, there and they're. "Your" should have been "you're" meaning '...while you are in college.' "Their" shoudl have been they're meaning 'They are professional....'
Someone didn't go to college.
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Get a real degree in engineering, science, CS, or MIS. If you still want to do marketing after school at least you'll understand wtf you're marketing. I work with people in marketing all the time, yeah they are smooth talkers but they don't know sh!t about how their products really work.
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Ignore the liberals while your in college, work to remove them and discredit them while you there and take every chance you get to remind them of the founding. Remember after you leave you will find there is isn't anything dumber a college professor. Their professional students and live in a very closed world one which you will never operate in the future after school.

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Maybe you should learn to spell the english language and learn its grammar too before making idiotic comments.
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the marketing students at my school knew how to party, compared to the other business majors. that's the only good thing i can say about getting a marketing degree. by the way, i got a bs in marketing and never used it.
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work hard, realize the purpose of college is to teach you how to learn....

when you get out.... start learning and start doing
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Well when you land jobs at companies like Goldman Sachs, Citi group ect... you are paid pretty nicely, even if its your first year.

And it wasn't their parents BTW. Just connections
noone gets a starting salary of 115-150k straight out of college unless that includes the bonus. that is ridiculous.
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This coming from someone having trouble grasping the basic spelling and grammar of the English language.
not all of us have read 700 books

i know who im gonna PM my english essays from now on
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