3D HD TV

choicez · 03-08-2010, 12:36 PM

I guess it's time to upgrade my TV again. I bet this will be the new wave of interactive entertainment. $3,300 for 55''/1080P/240Hz LED-LCD seems reasonable.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Electron...at204300050000

Any thoughts?

KingOfJericho · 03-08-2010, 12:56 PM

I really don't understand how a movie theater screen can show 3D but a TV can not do so without being 3D ready. Doesn't make sense since the image is still being projected from a single flat surface. I also checked out the Sony 3D TV at the Sony store and I guess it was cool but I'll wait a few years to make sure this isn't a short-lived gimmick. I saw Alice in Wonderland last night and while it was pretty neat to see 3D, the image is also much darker than normal and I find the picture to be much less crisp and clear.

lib · 03-08-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by choicez

Any thoughts?

Wearing 3D glasses to watch TV in your living room is idiotic.

FStop7 · 03-08-2010, 01:58 PM

I don't want to have to wear glasses to watch TV...

Hawkeye · 03-08-2010, 02:57 PM

With the 3D ready TV you will not need the glasses. Hence the 3D ready part.

KingOfJericho · 03-08-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

With the 3D ready TV you will not need the glasses. Hence the 3D ready part.

From wikipedia:

3D-ready TV sets

3D-ready TV sets are those that can operate in 3D mode (in addition to regular 2D mode), in conjunction with LCD shutter glasses, where the TV tells the glasses which eye should see the image being exhibited at the moment, creating a stereoscopic image. These TV sets usually support HDMI 1.4 and a minimum (input and output) refresh rate of 120Hz; glasses may be sold separately.

Mitsubishi and Samsung utilize DLP technology from Texas Instruments.[4] As of January 2010, Toshiba, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, and LG all had plans to introduce 3D capabilities (mostly in higher-end models) in TVs available sometime in 2010.[5] 3D Blu-Ray players and DirecTV broadcasts are also expected in 2010.[5]

The Chinese manufacturer TCL has developed a 42-inch LCD 3D TV called the TD-42F, which is currently available in China. This model uses a lenticular system and does not require any special glasses. It currently sells for approximately $20,000.[6]

bolinp78 · 03-08-2010, 03:30 PM

Why do I feel like the only people that will buy this technology (and eat it up), are ones that meet at least two of these requirements:

a) frequent Wal-Mart and have likely been seen on www.peopleofwalmart.com

b) bought the Shake-Weight the night they saw it while watching Nick At Night re-runs

c) have more than five kids

d) owns and often wears a T-shirt that states "All your base are belong to us."

e) buy their weight in popcorn, extra large sodas, and sno-caps each time they go to the movies

SteveMD · 03-08-2010, 03:49 PM

Affordable 3D television is still in the distant future and you WILL have to wear glasses - you have to show each eye a different image and to do so, you need to either polarise the light (as in the movies) or 'shutter' alternate eye images with smart glasses.

And if any of these use DLP technology (which is dead) then what's the point?

I am a TV fanatic and usually buy a new model every year and IMO, 3D is overhyped similar to 'LED' TVs which are not LED televisions at all. In fact it is so misleading that in the UK, Samsung was banned from advertising them as LED televisions because well...they're not are they.

Hawkeye · 03-08-2010, 04:33 PM

Hmm, yeah that kind of kills it for me then. I had read something like this a while ago and thought it had progressed to that point. Didn't think they would make the users don glasses to view the 3D. Lamesauce.

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Hitachi is at work on a glasses-free solution, and recently displayed a 10-inch version at the CEATEC trade show in Japan. The Full Parallax 3D TV uses 16 projectors with 800×600 resolution and a special lens array sheet to create the perception of depth without special eye wear, though the display currently tops at a meager 640×480 (VGA) resolution. The low resolution is the result of having to provide multiple viewpoints of the image—the good news is that it permits viewing from any angle. In the future, the plan is to combine in one set to create a 4k image (which is roughly times the resolution of 1080p HD).

Hawkeye · 03-08-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMD

Affordable 3D television is still in the distant future and you WILL have to wear glasses.

Just like processors can't possibly get bigger than 1Ghz and cars will always have to run on gasoline... haha.

Glad we have a fortune teller in our midst. We WILL for sure have 3D HDTVs without the need of glasses someday. Just a matter of time.

KingOfJericho · 03-08-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Just like processors can't possibly get bigger than 1Ghz and cars will always have to run on gasoline... haha.

Glad we have a fortune teller in our midst. We WILL for sure have 3D HDTVs without the need of glasses someday. Just a matter of time.

Did you miss this from above:

The Chinese manufacturer TCL has developed a 42-inch LCD 3D TV called the TD-42F, which is currently available in China. This model uses a lenticular system and does not require any special glasses. It currently sells for approximately $20,000.

SantaPimp27 · 03-08-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Just like processors can't possibly get bigger than 1Ghz and cars will always have to run on gasoline... haha.

Glad we have a fortune teller in our midst. We WILL for sure have 3D HDTVs without the need of glasses someday. Just a matter of time.

for now you still have to wear glasses, with the progress of OLED tv's, the 3D effect without glasses could be possibly. OLED tv's can be as thin as a sheet of paper. And it is thought that many of these layered, it could produce a 3D effect.

However, they are having a lot of trouble making larger OLED sets. And they are very expensive. It could be quite awhile till they are affordable. And 3D is very far from being affordable.

The 3D that these new TV's will be showing is not the old anaglyph 3D with the 2 colored glasses. Its stereoscopic 3D that will be in full 1080p and use active shutter glasses. From the people who have seen Demo's it is supposed to stunning. Vastly better than Avatar ever hoped to look

I personally though would wait a couple of years for all of the bugs to get ironed out. Buying early tech is always a problem

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-08-2010, 06:02 PM

I think it would appeal more to scrawny, socially inept virgins.

No offense to any scrawny, socially inept virgins.

len56 · 03-08-2010, 06:54 PM

tv/film should always be 2D imo

plus the 3D isnt really 3d, it's like

:/

FStop7 · 03-08-2010, 09:07 PM

BTW, this entire push for 3D (Avatar, Alice in Wonderland, etc) is an anti-piracy thing.

Holographic projection would interest me.

Comet · 03-09-2010, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

I think it would appeal more to scrawny, socially inept virgins.

No offense to any scrawny, socially inept virgins.

none taken.. j/k :P

I was gonna jump on the 3D bandwagon, but there aren't enough movies out to justify it.
also, you need a big screen to make nice use of it

DougLikesBMW · 03-09-2010, 05:58 AM

Well my thoughts are that I would never waste my money at a store like Best Buy when NewEgg and Amazon exist.

Why do I want to pay more for the product and pay tax? Oh that's right, I don't.

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-09-2010, 11:00 AM

Hey Doug, have you ever bought a large (55" ish) flat panel TV online?
If so, how was your experience with it?

Comet · 03-09-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DougLikesBMW

Well my thoughts are that I would never waste my money at a store like Best Buy when NewEgg and Amazon exist.

Why do I want to pay more for the product and pay tax? Oh that's right, I don't.

damn your sig makes me waste like 2 mins everytime I see it.

burberry · 03-09-2010, 01:38 PM

god damn. im gonna wait a few years before getting one of these.

DougLikesBMW · 03-09-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

Hey Doug, have you ever bought a large (55" ish) flat panel TV online?
If so, how was your experience with it?

No, I've never made a purchase that large anywhere!

But, NewEgg has excellent customer service and you don't pay tax with them. Amazon is good too, but obviously NewEgg's specialty is electronics.

Salespunk · 03-09-2010, 09:56 PM

NewEgg is a customer of mine. They take pretty good care of their customers. ESPN and Discovery are both launching 3D channels later this year. This is the next wave for home electronics unfortunately. I don't think that $3K is that bad for the set, but I am not really interested in the technology.

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