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what's going on in this forum?
what's with all the thread deletions and warnings??
bruce got warned and when he opened a thread to basically say goodbye to us the mods deleted it what's going on? has there been a change in the rules? are we hosting this forum from China now? ofcourse i expect this thread to be deleted as soon as it goes up |
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12-16-2009, 11:57 AM | #2 |
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48 minutes later no responses and not deleted. I am sure PencilGeek will freely answer your questions as to why bruce was warned and why his thread was deleted/moved.
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12-16-2009, 12:02 PM | #3 |
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The thread you are referencing was moved to the relevant section of the forum:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...04#post6373804
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because every single other thread, when moved, stays on the main page with MOVED: next to it except that one that's why i thought it was deleted |
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12-16-2009, 12:24 PM | #5 | |
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Having said this, I initially deleted Bruce's thread on the basis that it was off topic to the General M3 Forum as it had no M3 content. Shortly after (based on my own consideration and not on any discussion) it occured to me that it is relevant to the site related feedback section, so I moved it there. This thread is also technically off topic. I will leave it here for the time being so that members are more aware of the site related feedback section. I don't think people are all that familiar with it. It certainly escapes my thinking at times, but I think we could all use it more to have this kind of discussion.
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12-16-2009, 01:16 PM | #7 |
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They're taking over the forums. We don't have freedom of speech anymore.
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You are just a guest. You do have the freedom to never visit this or any such site again.
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12-16-2009, 05:38 PM | #13 | |
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To be more blunt, there are now and there has been in the past topics within the M3 General forum that are blatantly, moderately, or subtly off topic. I am curious why they remain in that forum, if you are permitted to discuss it. |
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12-16-2009, 05:48 PM | #14 | |
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Someone telling another member to f*** off in the middle of a heated debate (the exact wording was "eff off"), getting a minor warning for it from a moderator, and then starting a thread and stating that the definition of proper language on the forum is a "moving target" is indeed an off-topic discussion and does not belong in the main forum page. See, I didn't want to be this explicit about it, but you asked me to be. We give many infractions/warnings on a daily basis. Do you want to see a public discussion on every one of them on the main forum page (there is a seperate page which lists every single warning and infraction given in the moderator/administrator section so it's not as if these things are not kept in check)? How many threads would that result in? And in many cases, there are details that we cannot discuss in public for various reasons. How is that related to the general M3 discussion?
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12-16-2009, 06:18 PM | #15 |
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My apologies lucid if I am upsetting you here. I have nothing but respect for you as a moderator and as a fellow M3 owner and knowledgeable forum member.
To be honest, my line of questioning was not meant to be with respect to the posts kmarei was speaking about in his OP. I really was just looking for some general rule clarification. Perhaps I ought to have started a seperate thread for it - my apologies. In any case, I do realize you guys only have so much bandwidth and that is completely understandable. Nevertheless, some off-topic threads go on for days or longer, sitting at the top of the thread list and are never moved, while other off topic posts are being picked off all around them. It certainly gives the appearance that some posts are consciously being treated differently for some reason. Admittedly things like this can be misinterpreted, and this could be such a case. I suppose from now on I will simply report off topic posts as you suggest. |
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No worries. As a mod, I've learned that it's best not to jump into a thread and take action without understanding what's going on (unless something is obviously wrong). So, in many cases, I leave a thread alone if I haven't read it, and there are many many threads that I've never clicked on that I know nothing about. For instance, I don't visit the cosmetic modifications section often, and I have very little knowledge of what's inside. A lot of threads get created in the main section every day. I don't even get to read 20% of the titles. But I do take action on the threads I do read if I think there is a need. Naturally, the more provocative/interesting titles attrack more of attention, so I am more likely to read them (and act on them if there is a need). I don't know how it is for other moderators, but I can't imagine it being that much different. I agree that this might result in a somewhat inconsistent picture overall. And some threads are hard to judge such as the watch thread. It is about M3 owners, but does it really belong to the general M3 forum? One could argue that it does because it is about "///M". One can also argue that it is not about the car, so it should be somewhere else, etc. However, that might simply point out a need to further define the purpose of the general M3 forum.
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