[Frupal]

I just test drove an i5 M60 and I loved it! What a hoot! The only thing that bothered me was that I couldn't get rid of the lumbar support. No matter how long I held the button to reduce it, there remained a bulge that I found less than comfortable. Any suggestions?

[Scrapula]

Not really. If it’s all the way down, that is it. I have arthritis in my lower back and keep mine inflated for support.

[SkykingUSA]

I can get rid of mine, but not if I hold it all the way down. You have to fiddle with the lumbar button a little. Maybe move it up a bit or forward a bit - on mine, there is a way to get it almost so you don't feel anything, but it's not where you think it is. It's an odd adjustment.

[fastbutslow]

Are you sure you drive an m60 model? Luxury / comfort seats are standard on the m60 and those have universally been claimed as having excellent plushness and adjustments.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by fastbutslow

Are you sure you drive an m60 model? Luxury / comfort seats are standard on the m60 and those have universally been claimed as having excellent plushness and adjustments.

Two things here
1) depending on material / color choice some m60s seat selections get the sport seats.
2) even if this OP was in the luxury seat , this would not be the first post complaint about the lumbar in the luxury seats.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

I can get rid of mine, but not if I hold it all the way down. You have to fiddle with the lumbar button a little. Maybe move it up a bit or forward a bit - on mine, there is a way to get it almost so you don't feel anything, but it's not where you think it is. It's an odd adjustment.

Completely agree with this. I some times find holding the button once, letting go, then holding it again can complete the withdrawal. OR moving it out again then back in can reach new levels. It’s very inconsistent behavior. Don’t ask me why..

[Blue Sky]

I noticed difficulty with the lumbar adjustment during test drives, even though the quad button controls are supposed to operate as with prior models. I had to pull over and work with it a while until I got it how I liked. I like some lumbar, so I’m ok if it doesn’t disappear completely and even form a pit like lumbar support can be commanded to do on some cars I’ve owned.

[SkykingUSA]

My biggest complaint about the lumbar is that it doesn't go low enough on my back - I wish it went lower down the back, but I found a comfortable position for it. I have it at the lowest position I can get it at, and just a touch forward.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

My biggest complaint about the lumbar is that it doesn't go low enough on my back - I wish it went lower down the back, but I found a comfortable position for it. I have it at the lowest position I can get it at, and just a touch forward.

Agree with this too. My lower back gets on fire during my 70-90 min commute. Have not found a spot yet that prevents this and have been blaming the lumbar for it.

[lewy]

I have comfort seats and this is how it is. The lumbar support is extensive and it is hard to find good position
I had M60 with sport seats for a weekend and they felt much more comfortable because back were more flat.
Maybe it is a matter of adjustment or getting used to it but there is something with curvature of the seat.

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by lewy

I have comfort seats and this is how it is. The lumbar support is extensive and it is hard to find good position
I had M60 with sport seats for a weekend and they felt much more comfortable because back were more flat.
Maybe it is a matter of adjustment or getting used to it but there is something with curvature of the seat.

With the lumbar fully deflated my luxury seats do create a bowl. It appears very comfortable at first but it’s not supportive enough for me on long trips, hence the burning back.

Interesting to read your opinion on sport seats. Personally, I might have been better off with those which I thought the opposite when looking and test driving. Shorter test drives just are not enough.

[nacs]

I also find the lumbar support to be to high up in my seat back, I also agree that manipulating the seat around eventually does allow the lumbar to further deflate past what you would’ve thought was the limit stop. For me, the best part of the seat is the side bolsters, and the thigh support.

[SkykingUSA]

Originally Posted by nacs

I also find the lumbar support to be to high up in my seat back, I also agree that manipulating the seat around eventually does allow the lumbar to further deflate past what you would’ve thought was the limit stop. For me, the best part of the seat is the side bolsters, and the thigh support.

I agree. The adjustable thigh support and side bolsters are nice. It helps to have the thigh support raised upwards and extended for me.

[patriotsfan]

This is just how it is, at least on my driver side seat.

The bottom (half?) of the lumbar support area always remains firmer than the rest of the seat and feels as though it is never fully off/deflated.

Kinda driving me crazy because I fixate on minor flaws like that

[Mattl0806]

Originally Posted by patriotsfan

This is just how it is, at least on my driver side seat.

The bottom (half?) of the lumbar support area always remains firmer than the rest of the seat and feels as though it is never fully off/deflated.

Kinda driving me crazy because I fixate on minor flaws like that

I’m with you. I simply can’t find a combination of seat and lumbar position that does not make my back burn after 45 mins. I’ve come to like the car more and more aside from this and the plastics.

[guod]

I feel the same. In my M60i, this feels like a giant lump, even when fully deflated. Really disappointed with the seats and am actually considering putting my car on a lease swapping site or something. I also find the controls to be unresponsive. if you want TINY adjustments in the seat back, nothing happens for the first 2 times. Then the third time of a quick press, the seat does an elongated movement. Same goes for if you're adjusting using the screen and want the bolsters to be just a little tighter or wider...you tap for a quick adjustment, nothing happens. then again, nothing. Then the third time, it does a long movement like you held it for a second or two.

To call these comfort seats is as joke too. Comfort/multi-contour seats used to also meant the upper half of the seat could articulate separately from the lower part of the backrest. Was like that since the says of an e38/e39. Had the same on my 2018 530e. These are just poorly done relative to the other bmws.

I also have noticed if I turn the seat heater on, it will slowly inflate the lumbar support. I am assuming this is because the heat is making the air expand. I've never experienced anything like this in any of my cars, which is an extensive list.

But not being able to be comfortable in the seat is a true killer for me. Thought I'd get used to it over time, but I think compared to all my recent modern cars (e tron GT, Polestar 2, model 3, 530e, Equinox ev, niro ev) these are the worst of the group, by a lot. It's crazy that a power seat has preset adjustment points versus being able to set the backrest in any position, like in any other power seat i've been in from the past 30 years.

[SkykingUSA]

Originally Posted by guod

I feel the same. In my M60i, this feels like a giant lump, even when fully deflated. Really disappointed with the seats and am actually considering putting my car on a lease swapping site or something. I also find the controls to be unresponsive. if you want TINY adjustments in the seat back, nothing happens for the first 2 times. Then the third time of a quick press, the seat does an elongated movement. Same goes for if you're adjusting using the screen and want the bolsters to be just a little tighter or wider...you tap for a quick adjustment, nothing happens. then again, nothing. Then the third time, it does a long movement like you held it for a second or two.

To call these comfort seats is as joke too. Comfort/multi-contour seats used to also meant the upper half of the seat could articulate separately from the lower part of the backrest. Was like that since the says of an e38/e39. Had the same on my 2018 530e. These are just poorly done relative to the other bmws.

I also have noticed if I turn the seat heater on, it will slowly inflate the lumbar support. I am assuming this is because the heat is making the air expand. I've never experienced anything like this in any of my cars, which is an extensive list.

But not being able to be comfortable in the seat is a true killer for me. Thought I'd get used to it over time, but I think compared to all my recent modern cars (e tron GT, Polestar 2, model 3, 530e, Equinox ev, niro ev) these are the worst of the group, by a lot. It's crazy that a power seat has preset adjustment points versus being able to set the backrest in any position, like in any other power seat i've been in from the past 30 years.

That's weird. It sounds like your seats are faulty. When I press my controls on the seat, they move after a very slight delay, and they stop when I release the button. I am able to make small adjustments, and I have never felt the lumbar support change because of the seat heaters.

[AiredaleDad]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

That's weird. It sounds like your seats are faulty. When I press my controls on the seat, they move after a very slight delay, and they stop when I release the button. I am able to make small adjustments, and I have never felt the lumbar support change because of the seat heaters.

This! I agree your seats are likely faulty. I have no problem making miniscule adjustments using either the seat side controls, or the IDrive controls. And the memory keeps it exactly where I put it. I have felt the seat bolsters inflate to give a bit more support if I am in the twisties in Sport mode and the car "knows" I need a bit more support. But they go back to normal when I either slow down, or get to a normal road.

[lewy]

I think those comfort seats are not faulty they are just so inflated a bit in the bottom.
Is anyone having problem with sport seats?
I did feel as you guys describe in comfort seats and when I took 1 hour drive in sport seats and then a weekend drive also in sports- they felt different.
Actually before ordering I was feeling better in sports but somehow „comfort” seamed to me better from name.

[guod]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

That's weird. It sounds like your seats are faulty. When I press my controls on the seat, they move after a very slight delay, and they stop when I release the button. I am able to make small adjustments, and I have never felt the lumbar support change because of the seat heaters.

Sadly two dealers and four trips, say this is normal. Can’t find any issues when compared to their other i5.

[Mattl0806]

May have discovered my issue…. My belt… Will report back after a few more drives without wearing it. But essentially it’s right in the lower lumbar area adding pressure points. Seats Feels a lot better not wearing one. Sorry this may be obvious to most. Silly me.

[elbmw]

Currently driving a loaner iX and I can confirm that we, the G60 owners, got the short end of the stick in terms of the seats.

The iX seats are SO much more comfortable.