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Laser jammer & radar detectors

Has anyone installed a laser jammer and or a radar detector in their G60?
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Has anyone installed a laser jammer and or a radar detector in their G60?
No but I’m intrigued by the possibility! I’ve got my Escort radar detector, but one night while I was going a meager 5 over, I got hit with a laser detector. It made me realize that my ability to react to that was about 0%.

Clearly didn’t get a ticket, but it did make me realize that while do get some heads up about Ka band, laser is another thing all together.

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Yes. I have a Valentine V1 (Gen 2) installed with a Blendmount bracket and mirror tap.

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Yes. I have a Valentines V1 (Gen 2) installed with a Blendmount bracket and mirror tap.
Blendmount for the mirror on a G60? I was under the impression they do not make a blendmount that works for the G60 Mirror stem.
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No but I’m intrigued by the possibility! I’ve got my Escort radar detector, but one night while I was going a meager 5 over, I got hit with a laser detector. It made me realize that my ability to react to that was about 0%.

Clearly didn’t get a ticket, but it did make me realize that while do get some heads up about Ka band, laser is another thing all together.
Yeah if you just have a radar detector that can also detect laser and the laser alert goes off it's too late. They got you. Since you were only 5 over my assumption is the Po-Po didn't want to waste their time.

Laser Jammers are interesting to me, but there seems like a lot of work to have a clean stealthy install job.
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So are they at Blendmount, Migs. But, I tried the one from my 2021 M550 and it works fine. Tighter than on the M550, but adjust the mirror to where you want it and install.
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Yeah if you just have a radar detector that can also detect laser and the laser alert goes off it's too late. They got you. Since you were only 5 over my assumption is the Po-Po didn't want to waste their time.

Laser Jammers are interesting to me, but there seems like a lot of work to have a clean stealthy install job.
Yeah, that would be key for me doing it. It would have to look like it didn't exist or damn near close to it. It might actually be worth it if this was the case. I saw a map recently that was a real eye opener. It showed which States in the US issue the most speeding tickets. Clearly it might be worth while for me being in the Buckeye State.
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Yeah, that would be key for me doing it. It would have to look like it didn't exist or damn near close to it. It might actually be worth it if this was the case. I saw a map recently that was a real eye opener. It showed which States in the US issue the most speeding tickets. Clearly it might be worth while for me being in the Buckeye State.
exactly! I live in the suburbs of Columbus. I read a few years ago that Ohio has more police officers per capita than any other state and I believe it! I often travel Columbus to Cleveland and I was tracking how many I would see. On average I was counting 9 State Highway patrol in a 143 mile distance. That'a about one patrol every ~16 miles. imo that is kinda crazy.. I have a Uniden R8 and has done me well. I would like the R9 laser jammers.
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exactly! I live in the suburbs of Columbus. I read a few years ago that Ohio has more police officers per capita than any other state and I believe it! I often travel Columbus to Cleveland and I was tracking how many I would see. On average I was counting 9 State Highway patrol in a 143 mile distance. That'a about one patrol every ~16 miles. imo that is kinda crazy.. I have a Uniden R8 and has done me well. I would like the R9 laser jammers.
I watched a review of the jammers on Vortex Radar. That guy seems to do very scientific, pragmatic testing scenarios. The R9 clearly was the winner. I currently have the Escort Redline 360C and it's given me a number of alerts for Ka guns well in advance, but laser is next level. It detected it...right as he gunned me. lol. <laser laser laser>

I'd jump to the R9 system if I got serious about it, but it looks like whatever installer you chose, has to be willing (or able) to do some custom 3D printing installs to make quality mounts that blend with the vehicle's architecture. No idea who the Columbus/Cleveland metro areas that could do that.

I hear that Linndale, Ohio is literally the plague ship of speeding tickets in the State, to the point of absurdity. I know it's made the news on a number of occassions.

Here are the biggest Ohio offenders.
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I watched a review of the jammers on Vortex Radar. That guy seems to do very scientific, pragmatic testing scenarios. The R9 clearly was the winner. I currently have the Escort Redline 360C and it's given me a number of alerts for Ka guns well in advance, but laser is next level. It detected it...right as he gunned me. lol. <laser laser laser>

I'd jump to the R9 system if I got serious about it, but it looks like whatever installer you chose, has to be willing (or able) to do some custom 3D printing installs to make quality mounts that blend with the vehicle's architecture. No idea who the Columbus/Cleveland metro areas that could do that.

I hear that Linndale, Ohio is literally the plague ship of speeding tickets in the State, to the point of absurdity. I know it's made the news on a number of occassions.

Here are the biggest Ohio offenders.
When I inquired Uniden directly about installers they referred me to Columbus Car Audio. For what it's worth. I agree must be 3D printing and near seamless install in the cockpit. The R9 is already pushing 5k, so probably another $1K for the install. I wouldn't just want to hand the vehicle over and say have at it. I would want to walk through the install and approve everything first.
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I remember when radar detectors were a ticketable offense in Ohio. I had a first generation Escort from Cincinnati Microwave. Back then, I did a lot of computer programming for the Cincinnati Bengals and was in Ohio a lot. I haven’t bothered with them since moving to the Seattle area. The cops don’t come out in the rain. We have mainly motorcycle cops on the freeway, so it’s only an issue in summer. Plus there are enough people who self report via Waze, Apple, Android.

BTW, I got a police speed check on my BMW nav. I had CarPlay off. Did they finally add that feature? I don’t see a way to report when you see a cop.
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I sell/install them (Radenso, Escort, K40, Uniden) AND have radarguns to test them...did this Lambo Huracan a couple weeks ago.
Just a quick note...Radenso will be launching both their newest windshield unit Theia 2.0 and a whole new custom installed laser system in the next month or so that will crush the competition. I'm waiting for the 1st batch to ship and install it immediately in my g60 and of course will post about it here.
I like running the windshield units using usb c with a long cable to go directly into the rear usb ports.
Escort just released a Laser system to work with the windshield units.
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When I inquired Uniden directly about installers they referred me to Columbus Car Audio. For what it's worth. I agree must be 3D printing and near seamless install in the cockpit. The R9 is already pushing 5k, so probably another $1K for the install. I wouldn't just want to hand the vehicle over and say have at it. I would want to walk through the install and approve everything first.
Prices for basic labor are more like $2k. 3D+seamless can be $10k-$15k total.
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I remember when radar detectors were a ticketable offense in Ohio. I had a first generation Escort from Cincinnati Microwave. Back then, I did a lot of computer programming for the Cincinnati Bengals and was in Ohio a lot. I haven’t bothered with them since moving to the Seattle area. The cops don’t come out in the rain. We have mainly motorcycle cops on the freeway, so it’s only an issue in summer. Plus there are enough people who self report via Waze, Apple, Android.

BTW, I got a police speed check on my BMW nav. I had CarPlay off. Did they finally add that feature? I don’t see a way to report when you see a cop.
the report option just got released on AndroidAuto
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Prices for basic labor are more like $2k. 3D+seamless can be $10k-$15k total.
Well I guess that answers that. lol
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Well I guess that answers that. lol
That is why Escort came out with the new Laser unit (Front only) its like $1500 and the windshield units are between $500-$800...so $2k-ish for the parts. Install would be only $500 to $1k, so under $3k total, just like they used to cost pre 2020. Average labor prices are $1k to 1.5k per day. 3d scanning, CAD drawing/editing, fitment processes can add a day or more alone.

The new Radenso custom install is supposed to be a 1 wire to the front system(???) which might mean 1 sensor (???) that would save significant time/costs...we'll see.
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and once I've completed it, if any of you want the same thing maybe I could offer a diy deal or something.
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I sell/install them (Radenso, Escort, K40, Uniden) AND have radarguns to test them...did this Lambo Huracan a couple weeks ago.
Just a quick note...Radenso will be launching both their newest windshield unit Theia 2.0 and a whole new custom installed laser system in the next month or so that will crush the competition. I'm waiting for the 1st batch to ship and install it immediately in my g60 and of course will post about it here.
I like running the windshield units using usb c with a long cable to go directly into the rear usb ports.
Escort just released a Laser system to work with the windshield units.
Thanks for the info! What would you say the 'standard' installation cost is for any of these? Just trying to gauge what I should expect, and not get ripped off.
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I remember when radar detectors were a ticketable offense in Ohio. I had a first generation Escort from Cincinnati Microwave. Back then, I did a lot of computer programming for the Cincinnati Bengals and was in Ohio a lot.
When was that? Seriously I don’t ever remember this being the case. I grew up in Cincinnati in the 70’s-80’s and had one of the original Cincinnati Microwave Escorts. Met Jim Jaegers (founder along with Mike Valentine, RIP) back in early 80’s when both would show their cars - Jim’s Ferrari 250 GTO and Mike’s Porsches - at what became the Ault Park Concours (originally at Cincinnati Country Day School). Ohio has always been a police state on the highways it’s no coincidence most radar detector manufacturers started there. I still loathe driving through the state for that reason alone, but now I just set cruise at 10 over and don’t worry. States like Virginia and Vermont would issue tickets for having detectors, especially back in the 80’s. Ask me how I know.
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It might have been northern Kentucky where they were illegal. I still consider that Cincinnati even if it’s just over the river.
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Thanks for the info! What would you say the 'standard' installation cost is for any of these? Just trying to gauge what I should expect, and not get ripped off.
Of course it depends on the time it takes as each car is different and depends on which kit it used (just front sensors or also rears). A good average is 8-14hours to do a standard job. "I" price it by the hours it actually takes (vs. a generous lump sum most shops will charge plus extras) so $1000 (10hrs.) for just a front sensor system or $1500 for front and rear on simple cars is a good guesstimate to use. I've serviced many car dealerships for 25+ yrs., some model of trucks I can do in just 6hrs, a Porsche I did with 3D blends it took 4 days....so it can vary.
Most brands do front and rear sensors (360 coverage) and some offer just fronts which will save you money. Laser is a must these days, so figure for product cost only: $2000 for front only system, $3000 for front and rears. $5k is a typical 360 system price installed for most everyday cars (non exotics, no major customization).
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