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Better late than never of course.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ys-2024-08-22/

[LuckyL]

Ew.
#MakeCarsGreatAgain

[Msparta]

Are they counting any car with a battery? 😂

[M3AWD]

From a quick scan it looks like this is data from a single month. I'd need to see a quarter or even year to date to make more sense of this...

[Scrapula]

Originally Posted by Msparta

Are they counting any car with a battery? 😂

Pretty much, any BMW with a battery and any Tesla with a battery.

[M2Cmtl]

They specifically say BEV / Battery electric vehicles… so it seems like it’s just full evs.

[JoeAyalaM]

This is the inflection point in Tesla's rise and fall, people will realize that Tesla is not great, nor are it's car's. Now, real luxury brands offer better high end EVs and BYD offers much cheaper, similar ones.

Highest valued automaker? Come on!

The bedazzled ones who bought Tesla's shares better sell those ASAP.

[rabith007_b58]

Letsssssss gooooo

BEEMER WORLD 🌎

[Bimmerfun82]

Heard tarrifs on model 3 made in China was the cause, but interesting nonetheless.

[M3AWD]

I don't like Teslas myself but one has to admit they are superior from an energy efficiency standpoint. Regardless of "range", what really counts is "miles/kWh" (like mpg in ICE terms). This is where Tesla is still better than BMW and other traditional automakers. It's like comparing BMW (better mpg) vs. KIA (worse mpg) in ICE car efficiency. For the energy conscious EV buyer that's a main (but obviously not the only) factor.

[mose121]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Heard tarrifs on model 3 made in China was the cause, but interesting nonetheless.

I wonder if Elon even realizes those were largely retaliation for Trump's inflationary tarrif war against China. 🤔

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by M3AWD

I don't like Teslas myself but one has to admit they are superior from an energy efficiency standpoint. Regardless of "range", what really counts is "miles/kWh" (like mpg in ICE terms). This is where Tesla is still better than BMW and other traditional automakers. It's like comparing BMW (better mpg) vs. KIA (worse mpg) in ICE car efficiency. For the energy conscious EV buyer that's a main (but obviously not the only) factor.

They are super efficient. We got 314 wh/mi or 3.2 mi/kWh on the model 3 perf and 280 wh/mi on our dual motor Y or 3.6 mi/kWh. The iXm60 gets 2.6 mi/kWh.

But it’s a much more enjoyable use of power. Plus we use EA for free for 2 years which offsets any lack of efficiency. Charge there about half the power we use.

Note that on the highway the BMW is as efficient as Tesla (75 mph).

[M_Torx]

G90 would make much more sense being full EV that's heavy hybrid meh lol probably be super popular full EV 1000hp

[pegogetem]

I’m proud!

[hufington]

Hopefully they do not lower the overall quality any further to match Tesla profits!

[Scrapula]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

They are super efficient. We got 314 wh/mi or 3.2 mi/kWh on the model 3 perf and 280 wh/mi on our dual motor Y or 3.6 mi/kWh. The iXm60 gets 2.6 mi/kWh.

But it’s a much more enjoyable use of power. Plus we use EA for free for 2 years which offsets any lack of efficiency. Charge there about half the power we use.

Note that on the highway the BMW is as efficient as Tesla (75 mph).

You can see that my i5 M60 gets 3.4 mi/kWh while driving aggressively most of the time and still getting 270 miles of range. There are several people here that get better efficiency than me. I find it fast, efficient, plus the comfort and build quality of a BMW.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by Scrapula

You can see that my i5 M60 gets 3.4 mi/kWh while driving aggressively most of the time and still getting 270 miles of range. There are several people here that get better efficiency than me. I find it fast, efficient, plus the comfort and build quality of a BMW.

How do you do it? I don’t drive aggressively but get nowhere close to that number. The best I can do is 3.0 if I don’t get on the interstate. We use adaptive regen. Your 270 mi range is on 80% SOC?

Edit: noticed you have an i5 and we have an iX. We also have the biggest wheels on ours. That explains it.

[keiran]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

This is the inflection point in Tesla's rise and fall, people will realize that Tesla is not great, nor are it's car's. Now, real luxury brands offer better high end EVs and BYD offers much cheaper, similar ones.

Highest valued automaker? Come on!

The bedazzled ones who bought Tesla's shares better sell those ASAP.

Similar to folks that bought the Model S Plaid the folks that bought Cybertrucks have taken a huge hit as the market had utterly plummeted for them. Anyone who bought one above MSRP has to be fuming now especially since they’ve dropped 30-40k since launch.

[RichardInCA]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

How do you do it? I don’t drive aggressively but get nowhere close to that number. The best I can do is 3.0 if I don’t get on the interstate. We use adaptive regen. Your 270 mi range is on 80% SOC?

This is my July….i5 M60, mostly freeway commutes 60-70mph for big stretches. Try to have fun when available, but this kind of efficiency is possible.

[mhmmX5]

Awesome *Cries inside due to Tesla being fav. blue chip growth stock*

[DarkNight707]

Originally Posted by Scrapula

You can see that my i5 M60 gets 3.4 mi/kWh while driving aggressively most of the time and still getting 270 miles of range. There are several people here that get better efficiency than me. I find it fast, efficient, plus the comfort and build quality of a BMW.

Thanks for sharing but… dont forget to pick up your phone calls!

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

This is the inflection point in Tesla's rise and fall, people will realize that Tesla is not great, nor are it's car's. Now, real luxury brands offer better high end EVs and BYD offers much cheaper, similar ones.

Highest valued automaker? Come on!

The bedazzled ones who bought Tesla's shares better sell those ASAP.

I don’t drive an EV. I don’t want one. I don’t want a Tesla.

That said, Tesla is a technology company that happens to make cars. Not a car company that happens to develop some technology.

I wouldn’t sell Tesla stock just based on the auto industry catching up to their cars. Maybe if there’s some other reason, sure. But not for that reason.