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      01-10-2024, 01:34 PM   #1
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      01-10-2024, 06:35 PM   #2
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He said it himselfÖ.my M60 through work salary sacrifice at £102k will be HALF the monthly cost the used M5ís he mentionedÖ.

For me itís a no brainier. Canít wait for mineÖ..
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That G30 looks like my old Mazda 6
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2009 Mazda 6 to be exact.
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      01-11-2024, 12:11 AM   #5
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Itís bizarre really isnít it that a more expensive car is cheaper to ďbuyĒ than a cheaper one.
When I say buy obviously I mean lease but you know what I mean

I think the whole leasing method has made cars , not just this one , more expensive as another £50 per month doesnít seem too bad as opposed to a higher upfront cost
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I stopped watching at "Car was dropped off with 93% battery charge and predicted range of 204 miles". This is beyond inconvenient on a highway cruiser.

Waiting for my 540...
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Yeh that range doesnít work for me either . If I have 93% of my fuel tank of my 550 I have a range of nearly 400 miles sometime more depending upon how I drive

This model is arguably the replacement for the m550 , performance figures are similar but if you drive the m60 enthusiiaatically, I fear you wonít be going long distances

Iím sure this works for some, not for me though for this and a number of other reasons
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I stopped watching at "Car was dropped off with 93% battery charge and predicted range of 204 miles". This is beyond inconvenient on a highway cruiser.
Depends on the charging infrastructure in your region of the world. I travel a lot (for work) and my car is almost only used for long distances. The range of the i5 is plenty if you can easily find chargers on the road, which is the case in my province. Our government had a big push for chargers and it paid off. The result: 20% of cars sold here last year were EVs and it's only going up.

Range is important if you do long distances but I'd argue that once your car can do about 250 miles on a charge speed of charge and charging infrastructure becomes everything, since anyway you still have to stop once in a while for breaks.
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      01-11-2024, 10:37 AM   #9
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I noticed he was pleased with the fact that the car had two wireless chargers up front a la Tesla, but in reality, only one is a charger. The other one is just a tray. At least thatís how it is on my US car.
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I stopped watching at "Car was dropped off with 93% battery charge and predicted range of 204 miles". This is beyond inconvenient on a highway cruiser.

Waiting for my 540...
You can bet that a review car has been driven aggressively and thatís geeked the range algorithm. That being said, I think Iím getting closer to a 265-270mile range on my i5 M60 based on a month and a half of real-world driving.
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He said it himselfÖ.my M60 through work salary sacrifice at £102k will be HALF the monthly cost the used M5ís he mentionedÖ.

For me itís a no brainier. Canít wait for mineÖ..
Just watched this a second time and what he said was the M5 would be less money factoring 40k lower purchase price, higher running costs and better residual value than a new i5 M60. Itís at the 18:45 point of the video. Doesnít matter to me because Iím not getting one as a company car and Iím only considering the 540i.
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Just watched this a second time and what he said was the M5 would be less money factoring 40k lower purchase price, higher running costs and better residual value than a new i5 M60.
I thought it was funny that he compared a V8 gas guzzler to an EV but it makes sense if his primary concerns are performance and driving pleasure. To each his own, but I think *most* people don't cross shop ICE cars with huge engines and EVs; they are totally different animals.
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I thought it was funny that he compared a V8 gas guzzler to an EV but it makes sense if his primary concerns are performance and driving pleasure. To each his own, but I think *most* people don't cross shop ICE cars with huge engines and EVs; they are totally different animals.
He even said he doesnít like to compare old/new models but couldnít help it with the nearly 120k price in UK. I donít think he was super impressed by the i5 other than the ride quality and how it handled the twisty road he uses as a benchmark. But he also didnít have a lot of time to review it.
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Just watched this a second time and what he said was the M5 would be less money factoring 40k lower purchase price, higher running costs and better residual value than a new i5 M60. Itís at the 18:45 point of the video. Doesnít matter to me because Iím not getting one as a company car and Iím only considering the 540i.
Not in uk. My brand new ďwork leasedĒ M60 over 3yrs with 20k miles annually with NO deposit, and ALL maintenance, insurance and tax included is £950 net a month.
To buy a used M5 for £75k with NO maintenance, insurance tax etc over 3yrs with 20k miles a year works out to be £1628 with a final payment of £35k, or £2407 a month to own outright after.

As I said, itís a no brainierÖ..financially at least.
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Out of interest, those in the U.K. may notice that the road he was on the same road that other YouTubers use, namely harry metcalfe and ďnumber 27Ē

Iíve driven on it myself and it is a good driving road , can see why they choose it
That s bend with the dip is quite a challenging bend. On my m550, the satnav warns you about this being a dangerous curve
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Depends on the charging infrastructure in your region of the world. I travel a lot (for work) and my car is almost only used for long distances. The range of the i5 is plenty if you can easily find chargers on the road, which is the case in my province. Our government had a big push for chargers and it paid off. The result: 20% of cars sold here last year were EVs and it's only going up.

Range is important if you do long distances but I'd argue that once your car can do about 250 miles on a charge speed of charge and charging infrastructure becomes everything, since anyway you still have to stop once in a while for breaks.
I love my I5M60. But, if I drove a lot or need to rely on public charging, I would have 100% got a Tesla (maybe a Lucid) or waited to see how the new partnership with Tesla goes. If BMW can access most of the Tesla network, that's probably solving most of the issues.

Also, I really don't think this is a good M550 replacement. Its more like a smaller 7 series. If you love the BMW badge, smooth ride, tech, and refinement, its a great car. If you want anything else, including a true sports sedan, its not really it.
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Not in uk. My brand new ďwork leasedĒ M60 over 3yrs with 20k miles annually with NO deposit, and ALL maintenance, insurance and tax included is £950 net a month.
To buy a used M5 for £75k with NO maintenance, insurance tax etc over 3yrs with 20k miles a year works out to be £1628 with a final payment of £35k, or £2407 a month to own outright after.

As I said, itís a no brainierÖ..financially at least.
Maybe so but Iím going by what he said in the video. Iím not shopping for either car.
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I now want a X7 40d with a gazillion miles per tank of diesel while they figure out how to make EVs with more range ... Now where do I dig a hole to find that pot of money...
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Looks better than a M3
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That G30 looks like my old Mazda 6
Maybe to Helen Keller.
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Maybe so but I’m going by what he said in the video. I’m not shopping for either car.
I completely understand, but there’s no opposition….(in my situation)
I’ve had a ‘15 M5 and loved it, I’ve had a Clio V6, a Subaru Impreza STI blobeye, an Audi S6 V10….and I LOVE the noise… the drama…..
But I love acceleration, because speed means nothing. Acceleration is what you feel. Electric cars have that in abundance……

I’m coming from a Tesla 3 performance which has been brilliant. I’ve loved every minute, apart from auto wipers lol.

Merc’s look awful, Audi Etron gt is old now, porsche Taycan is nice looking but again old, and ridiculous option list makes leasing unrealistic.

Sooooo, that’s why BMW i5 M60 is my choice……best of all worlds as I can work out….
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