BMW i5 and 5-Series Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-18-2009, 02:29 AM   #1
The_Blob
Second Lieutenant
The_Blob's Avatar
510
Rep
298
Posts

Drives: 2008 E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Public schools are crap.

I'll be honest, I attended a high school which I never wanted to attend. I wanted out, but I couldn't because I didn't live in the district for the school I wanted to attend. So, I attended a school where 90 percent of students who didn't care about studying, teachers who gave up on teaching and a few who didn't know answers to many questions, and administration staff were just rude. A school so bad that they had to install video cameras, and school so bad that they implemented student attendance swipe cards for all of the classes, and friggin' loud fog horn alarms on all of the side door exits. Public schools are a failure. If monkeys had to go to school, it would be cruel for them to attend the school I attended.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 02:30 AM   #2
c0nstant
Lieutenant General
c0nstant's Avatar
United_States
1847
Rep
17,322
Posts

Drives: G80 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (1)

thats a terrible generalization.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 02:36 AM   #3
The_Blob
Second Lieutenant
The_Blob's Avatar
510
Rep
298
Posts

Drives: 2008 E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Let's be honest. If you attend a good private school, everyone wants to do well. Teachers, parents of students, and a majority students themselves. For public schools, there are no guarantees. If someone offered me a million dollars so I would have to attend five years of my high school, I would just laugh and say no thanks.

North American public schools in general are a massive failure. I truly believe many North American public schools are no better than schools in Africa.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 02:59 AM   #4
c0nstant
Lieutenant General
c0nstant's Avatar
United_States
1847
Rep
17,322
Posts

Drives: G80 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (1)

as far as education goes, i will say that in many cases, 'you get what you pay for'. however, there are exceptions. also, if you believe that attending a private school ensures you grow in a safe and controlled environment, youre wrong.

i went to a nationally recognized, blue-ribbon private high school where a good 80% of the students regularly did some kind of drug, drank, smoked cigarettes and/or had unprotected sex before they applied for college. my classmates were well off; the average household income was well over 100k. if anything, the students from my school were more fucked up than kids from public schools. instead of weed, we did coke; instead of drinking beer, we drank vodka. i mean damn, i remember smoking stoges and bowls behind the cafeteria at lunch. kids will be fucked up regardless of where they go to school.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:05 AM   #5
The_Blob
Second Lieutenant
The_Blob's Avatar
510
Rep
298
Posts

Drives: 2008 E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

I meant good private school meaning a school where it's actually very difficult to get in. There are few schools that I know that you have to be very selective like all A's, you have to be well rounded with talents and community work, etc. I know these schools where 99% of the grads could attend almost any University they like. I just couldn't believe that I waste 5 years at my high school which I accomplished nothing. Okay, my school was strict too like no eating the in the hallways, no swearing, very people at my school smoked and those who smoked weed were expelled already. When it came to academics and school spirit - it just was extremely lacking.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:12 AM   #6
in5ane_3
Lieutenant General
in5ane_3's Avatar
Armenia
254
Rep
16,220
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sun Valley, California

iTrader: (3)

In Southern California, at least, most public schools are fine. I honestly think if parents do not push their child to learn then the child really ins't going to get much out of any school. From my experience, went through public schools from elementary to high school, if the students want to recieve an education they do. If they don't want to attend school or get anything out of attending they don't, no matter how hard they pushed.

I know kids that went to the most exclusive private schools in socal and are extreme fuck ups now. A couple of them have been meth heads and a couple other do nothing and live off of their parents. There are exceptions to everything, of course.

I also was exposed to a lot of different people, cultures and customs going through public schooling which has taught a lot more than I would think it would've. Private schools seem to have this niche of students that attend, most end up having the same lifestyles and coming out of school being the same way. Public schools expose students to a lot of variety, some bad and some good.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:21 AM   #7
c0nstant
Lieutenant General
c0nstant's Avatar
United_States
1847
Rep
17,322
Posts

Drives: G80 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blob View Post
I meant good private school meaning a school where it's actually very difficult to get in. There are few schools that I know that you have to be very selective like all A's, you have to be well rounded with talents and community work, etc. I know these schools where 99% of the grads could attend almost any University they like. I just couldn't believe that I waste 5 years at my high school which I accomplished nothing. Okay, my school was strict too like no eating the in the hallways, no swearing, very people at my school smoked and those who smoked weed were expelled already. When it came to academics and school spirit - it just was extremely lacking.
in the end, the level of success depends on the students determination imo. why did you graduate in 5 years?
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:22 AM   #8
darkphantom
Banned
633
Rep
5,945
Posts

Drives: E93 335i
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The place for Bimmers

iTrader: (4)

wow, what a broad generalization....my public school was considered crap because the majority of students average 4.0+GPAs out of a maximum 4.8....it was compared to a public school ranking tier A in houston...avg GPA was 4.5ish /5.0 max...

Sorry about your school man, but don't generalize so vaguely...
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:23 AM   #9
in5ane_3
Lieutenant General
in5ane_3's Avatar
Armenia
254
Rep
16,220
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sun Valley, California

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jh valley View Post
our school was no pos. we had uniforms, random drug tests, drug dogs would come regularly, we took cif in football a couple of times and the average gpa was ~3.5. matter of fact, a number of my good friends graduated with gpas > than 4.0 and they were often more fucked up at parties than myself. i guess you can say we found an awkward balance between getting fucked up and academics. i agree with you that the quality of some public schools is lacking, but in the end, the level of success depends on the students determination imo.
Hit the nail on the head.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:26 AM   #10
c0nstant
Lieutenant General
c0nstant's Avatar
United_States
1847
Rep
17,322
Posts

Drives: G80 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by in5ane_3 View Post
Hit the nail on the head.
i deleted everything other than that sentence before you posted that
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:29 AM   #11
in5ane_3
Lieutenant General
in5ane_3's Avatar
Armenia
254
Rep
16,220
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sun Valley, California

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jh valley View Post
i deleted everything other than that sentence before you posted that
lol I noticed after I hit reply, I'm like where did all of John's reply go?
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:30 AM   #12
just4kickz
boku no namae ha...
United_States
344
Rep
11,023
Posts

Drives: 2006 BS 330i
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: S. Bay Area, CA + Newark, NJ + ChiCity + True Blue

iTrader: (11)

Garage List
2006 E90 330i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blob View Post
Let's be honest. If you attend a good private school, everyone wants to do well. Teachers, parents of students, and a majority students themselves. For public schools, there are no guarantees. If someone offered me a million dollars so I would have to attend five years of my high school, I would just laugh and say no thanks.

North American public schools in general are a massive failure. I truly believe many North American public schools are no better than schools in Africa.
generalization. the one public school in my sub-city is quite successful in helping students get to college, ivy's or UCs. but then again, the area's wealth is above the norm of the US.

some kids just don't want to learn. is that the school's fault?
__________________
looking for a PreLCI Black Sapphire e90 front bumper without license plate holes

"Akimbo shotguns. Broken wrists anyone? And don't give me that 'it's just a game' bull****. Where the **** are my akimbo interventions then?! One scope on each eye mother****er!!"
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:32 AM   #13
The_Blob
Second Lieutenant
The_Blob's Avatar
510
Rep
298
Posts

Drives: 2008 E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

I graduated high school in 5 years because in Canada high school is from grade 8 to grade 12. It's not just the students' determination but the school environment. I had teachers who didn't know how to teach, teachers who didn't even know the course, one teacher who showed up late half an hour every class, plenty of students who thought getting bad grades was cool. Finally, the students who wanted to do well kept asking me for all my homework and all the answers. It just drove me bonkers.

I am not saying ALL public schools are horrible. All my cousins attended public schools and they got accepted to good Universities. However, they got to choose the school. I didn't have a choice. They live in another different city. Different city, different school standards.

Lastly, when it comes to academic standards in my area, the high end private schools scored perfect scores when it came to testing of academics of the students. All students public and private schools get tested by an independent international research and educational organization and the high end private schools always get the highest marks.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:32 AM   #14
oldaccount
Colonel
oldaccount's Avatar
United_States
171
Rep
2,455
Posts

Drives: Car
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blob View Post
I'll be honest, I attended a high school which I never wanted to attend. I wanted out, but I couldn't because I didn't live in the district for the school I wanted to attend. So, I attended a school where 90 percent of students who didn't care about studying, teachers who gave up on teaching and a few who didn't know answers to many questions, and administration staff were just rude. A school so bad that they had to install video cameras, and school so bad that they implemented student attendance swipe cards for all of the classes, and friggin' loud fog horn alarms on all of the side door exits. Public schools are a failure. If monkeys had to go to school, it would be cruel for them to attend the school I attended.
^As can be seen by this poorly written group of words.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:35 AM   #15
c0nstant
Lieutenant General
c0nstant's Avatar
United_States
1847
Rep
17,322
Posts

Drives: G80 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blob View Post
I graduated high school in 5 years because in Canada high school is from grade 8 to grade 12. It's not just the students' determination but the school environment. I had teachers who didn't know how to teach, teachers who didn't even know the course, one teacher who showed up late half an hour every class, plenty of students who thought getting bad grades was cool. Finally, the students who wanted to do well kept asking me for all my homework and all the answers. It just drove me bonkers.

I am not saying ALL public schools are horrible. All my cousins attended public schools and they got accepted to good Universities. However, they got to choose the school. I didn't have a choice. They live in another different city. Different city, different school standards.
then shit man, you should have spoken the fuck up. if i was in your situation i would have sat down with my parents and told them i wanted out. theyre your parents, they arent going to deny your pursuit of a better eduation. sounds to me like youre bitter because you didnt do anything about your situation. my mom took the bus and walked 5 miles to her high school everyday because she knew it was up to her to do something.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 03:44 AM   #16
The_Blob
Second Lieutenant
The_Blob's Avatar
510
Rep
298
Posts

Drives: 2008 E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

I've been bitching about this topic since 1994 online and in person. No one seemed to listen back then. I'm just afraid that people would look at me differently because I never graduated college. I have a coworker who is the same age as me and he graduated college and he got promoted to manager and he's been working for less than 2 years at my workplace. Shockingly to me is that before he got promoted to manager he made less money than what I'm making now. I'm with the same company for almost 10 years and I didn't go up the corporate ladder too much. He's making almost twice what I'm making now.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 04:06 AM   #17
kabalm18
My car drones and I LOVE IT!!!
kabalm18's Avatar
United_States
211
Rep
613
Posts

Drives: 1M & F10 535xi
Join Date: May 2008
Location: My House

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blob View Post
I've been bitching about this topic since 1994 online and in person. No one seemed to listen back then. I'm just afraid that people would look at me differently because I never graduated college. I have a coworker who is the same age as me and he graduated college and he got promoted to manager and he's been working for less than 2 years at my workplace. Shockingly to me is that before he got promoted to manager he made less money than what I'm making now. I'm with the same company for almost 10 years and I didn't go up the corporate ladder too much. He's making almost twice what I'm making now.
Then go back to school.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 09:29 AM   #18
urbo73
Captain
United_States
60
Rep
754
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW M340i xDrive
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Suareezay View Post
^As can be seen by this poorly written group of words.
Actually, this is grammatically correct. What school did you attend?
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 10:13 AM   #19
SpecC
Completely obsessed with detailing
SpecC's Avatar
305
Rep
15,441
Posts

Drives: E90 SG 330i, white Scion tC
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Francisco and Davis

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by urbo73 View Post
Actually, this is grammatically correct. What school did you attend?
really?

Quote:
Public schools are a failure.
when did public schools become a singular noun?

to the OP... really, you are what you make of the situation. anybody who is in a position is desired has worked to that. they don't go around blaming everything else around them.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #20
urbo73
Captain
United_States
60
Rep
754
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW M340i xDrive
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecC View Post
really?



when did public schools become a singular noun?
Yes, really. Go research it, and you will see I'm correct.
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 12:32 PM   #21
Snecro
Second Lieutenant
Snecro's Avatar
Canada
4
Rep
268
Posts

Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Toronto, ON

iTrader: (1)

Blob, what school Board are you talking about?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-18-2009, 12:54 PM   #22
magmd
Major General
magmd's Avatar
United_States
165
Rep
5,271
Posts

Drives: '06 330i
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Torrance, CA

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
2006 330i  [0.00]
Well, look on the bright side. Nobody cares where you went to school.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blob View Post
In Canada, if you went to Harvard, you'll get the same treatment as someone who attended a Community College or a non famous University. School doesn't make the mark, it's your overall image and you have to be a well rounded individual. Well, this is only for Canada.

The whole I attended this or that school is so American.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blob View Post
Dude, in Canada, if you're a real Canadian, no one really cares where you attended school.
__________________
2006 330i | Black Sapphire Metallic | Step Auto | Navi with iDr | Sports Pkg |OEM Rear Spoiler | 3M CS35 Tint | H&R Sport Springs | Koni Yellows | Advan RS Racing Hypersilver: 19x9 et22 19x10 et20
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:29 AM.




g60
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST