[Equilibrandt]

Looks like the US will finally get some facetime with the the FK8s successor, the FL (though it'll still be camouflaged).

Dealer near me still hasn't discounted the rumor that there may be an auto/DCT offering. I definitely like the 2022 body style of the Civic more than the previous gen so the 2023 should look pretty nice, IMO.

Lapping the Suzuka circuit in 2:23.120.
2.0L 4 cyl, M6 trans.
Can't get FWD performance like these at this price point (as long as you can get past the venturi-flow triple exhaust)

https://www.motor1.com/news/583559/h...debut-us-ohio/

https://www.caranddriver.com/honda/civic-type-r

[tigermack]

Is there an option they sell it with the camo wrap? lol

[KennyFSU]

Lol yeah that wrap is badass. My coworker has a CTR and it's really fun to drive.

[Capt Canuck]

I won't be in early, but I will have this CTR before it goes outta production.
Hopefully they sort out the cooling from the start. It can only be a cracking drive

[CarsAndGuitars]

Do they have a camo to make the wing disappear?

[Darth One]

Looks promising. Looks like they cleaned up the rear end and got rid of a lot of the busy garbage, and the front to me is evocative of the JDM ITR

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by CarsAndGuitars

Do they have a camo to make the wing disappear?

Yes, it's called an Integra.

[RM7]

Rubber looks decently wide. The last R is a monster. It may not be a pretty monster, but it's a monster all the same. The current civic is butt-ugly and hopefully this is showing a better front end.

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by tigermack

Is there an option they sell it with the camo wrap? lol

Should have been an option for the current gen Type R to make it less God awful hideous looking.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Like everything else and the previous gen, prepare for fanbois willing to pay $20k over MSRP for it.

[pikkagtr]

At the end of the day
It is still fwd with the inheritant disadvantages of a fwd car
Yes it s very good, but having driven a plethora of times, modded and stock
The car never truly can hide the fact that it's fwd
And the price point of almost 50k , before markup
Well there are much better AWD/RWD cars out there with similar capabilities

[Red Bread]

It was $38k with no options available. They weren't impossible to find without markup either. Of course early ones will be hard to find at sticker, but that's true of a lot of cars currently. I'd imagine the new one will still be under $40k. My Mk8 Golf R is $45k, we don't know where the GRolla will come in yet.

[Equilibrandt]

For anyone curious, my guy at Honda of Thousand Oaks let me know that the full reveal should be at Mid-Ohio Indy Car on July 1-3.

He said there have been many hints that the reveal would be before then, which is any day now.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

For anyone curious, my guy at Honda of Thousand Oaks let me know that the full reveal should be at Mid-Ohio Indy Car on July 1-3.

He said there have been many hints that the reveal would be before then, which is any day now.

Stealthily as the unannounced pace car or with a proper launch campaign around it? 😁

[///MPhatic]

Fantastic performance from these cars for sure, but the shape and the WWD leaves me out of it.

[kennyvn]

Rented one to see if I wanted it, I just don’t like fwd

[shawnhayes]

Originally Posted by RM7

Rubber looks decently wide. The last R is a monster. It may not be a pretty monster, but it's a monster all the same. The current civic is butt-ugly and hopefully this is showing a better front end.

Are you kidding? I've been on track with these cars, and the only thing that gets passed more than them is a joint at a Grateful Dead concert.

The 2003 Mitsuibishi Lancer EVO posted a Nurburgring 8:14.98 lap time in 2003.

14 YEARS later, the Civic type R with a full "floating" cage and stripped out entertainment system can lay down a 7:43? I just don't think that's "monster" level. I watch the tests on Throttle House and watch it lose race after race.

Not that it isn't good value. For a car in that price range, it's road course track performance is definitely nifty. But not a "monster".

Shawn

[Donatello.]

Looks a lot less boy racer than the last. That's a good thing IMO.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by shawnhayes

Are you kidding? I've been on track with these cars, and the only thing that gets passed more than them is a joint at a Grateful Dead concert.

Everyone can't afford a GT3 RS with full cage, so most people compare their abilities to the capability of the car and race in similar classes so they can have decent competition. With that said, in these classes, these cars ARE monsters, they transcend normal FWD perceptions. If you are really passing them that much with equal drivers, then you are running some giant tracks and asymmetrical car classes.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by shawnhayes

The 2003 Mitsuibishi Lancer EVO posted a Nurburgring 8:14.98 lap time in 2003.

14 YEARS later, the Civic type R with a full "floating" cage and stripped out entertainment system can lay down a 7:43? I just don't think that's "monster" level. I watch the tests on Throttle House and watch it lose race after race.

Shawn

7.43 for a roughly 300hp front wheel drive car with 4 doors, that is listed about a second behind a Porsche Cayman 981 GT4 (on Sport cup 2s as well), less than 2 seconds behind a 997 GT3 driven by Walter Röhrl. A 4 door family econobox, keeping up with 2 Porsche GT cars, let that sink in.

[heavyD^2]

Originally Posted by kyriian

7.43 for a roughly 300hp front wheel drive car with 4 doors, that is listed about a second behind a Porsche Cayman 981 GT4 (on Sport cup 2s as well), less than 2 seconds behind a 997 GT3 driven by Walter Röhrl. A 4 door family econobox, keeping up with 2 Porsche GT cars, let that sink in.

That 7.43 was not recorded on a production car and should be taken with a grain of salt. It had Cup 2's, a stripped interior and who knows what engine tune and other tweaks.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

That 7.43 was not recorded on a production car and should be taken with a grain of salt. It had Cup 2's, a stripped interior and who knows what engine tune and other tweaks.

I mean, it is still respectable times to be among.
CTR's official Suzuka time is marginally slower than this gentleman in a 997 GT3RS, looking through his youtube videos he certainly isn't just someone who brought his lap