BMW 7th in reliablity

PiperG · 08-07-2008, 09:57 PM

Just saw the new report from JD Power. BMW came in 7th, with Lexus coming in 1st again. Still not too bad! But Mercery and Buick better than bimmers? C'mon! Here's the top 10. The study was based on 3 years of ownership.

1. Lexus
2.Mercery
3.Cadillac
4.Toyota
5.Acura
6.Buick
7.BMW
8.Lincoln
9.Honda
10. Jaguar

07 coupe · 08-07-2008, 10:02 PM

At least BMW beat out Honda.

cipher5 · 08-07-2008, 11:07 PM

Although it should be better than 7, these ratings are kinda skewed IMO. The electronics of a BMW are far more complex and integrated than a Buick or Mercury.

McLuVan · 08-07-2008, 11:07 PM

I call bs

PiperG · 08-07-2008, 11:08 PM

The electronics of the bimmers have always been their weak link IMO. Still better than buick or mercury, though.

ages944 · 08-07-2008, 11:09 PM

As complex as some BMWs are, 7th isn't bad.

BayAreaE92 · 08-07-2008, 11:12 PM

Most Accurate Reliability Rating I've seen this Yr.

madisonsfinest · 08-07-2008, 11:12 PM

Looks like mercedes didn't make the cut

PiperG · 08-07-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by madisonsfinest

Looks like mercedes didn't make the cut

MB was 18th. I was surprised to see infinity at 15......

the full results were on the home page of msn.com if anyone wants to see the whole thing

josephr25 · 08-08-2008, 12:41 AM

I don't know how these ratings are filled... but I've had an 92 SC400 that was nearly flawless until about 200K miles; a 735i that was always blowing hot air and barely starting sometimes; a MB 300E that would shut down randomly (once in the fast lane on the freeway I might add)... and my 350Z which has been solid even with all the junk I put on it. Nissan isn't even top 10... but hopefully my new 335 will reflect it's rank.

FirstClass · 08-08-2008, 12:55 AM

Worse than Cadillac? Really? Modern Cadillacs are shit buckets.

alex2112 · 08-08-2008, 02:41 AM

Mercury is #2?!?

WTF... Honda is #9 and BELOW Buick and Cadillac.... impossible.

shahils12 · 08-08-2008, 02:42 AM

It's a surprise that Mercedes didn't make the list.... generalizing all of the lineups of cars is pretty much meaningless. For example, MB makes some VERY reliable cars, but their SUVs are horrendous when it comes to reliability.

Seeing Mercury as #2 boggles my mind... this is quite difficult to digest....

simp0man · 08-08-2008, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLuVan

I call bs

Since when did Cadillac and Mercury became reliable? Lexas and Toyota are compared to each other then Acura is better than Honda, Ha!

EINSER M · 08-08-2008, 02:49 AM

what moron came up with this reliability rating. jags made top 10?????

NaTuReB0Y · 08-08-2008, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07 coupe

At least BMW beat out Honda.

now.....that's what i call

methodtim · 08-08-2008, 03:12 AM

I call shenanigans on this report. Seriously, it's BS.

The only way this report makes any sense is if they reported on total problems and not problems per x number of units. Bah!

Year's_End · 08-08-2008, 03:50 AM

Screw these reports. They're skewed because I'm sure that many people that fill out the survey slips are biased or just don't care and fill in all good or all bad.

Korrmuraan · 08-08-2008, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstClass

Worse than Cadillac? Really? Modern Cadillacs are shit buckets.

Exactly my first thought on seeing the list. Whoever compiled the statistical data was smoking the ragweed.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 08-08-2008, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

Screw these reports. They're skewed because I'm sure that many people that fill out the survey slips are biased or just don't care and fill in all good or all bad.

I don't think BMW could beat Honda. I think the report has been played with.

Here's the link to the 2008 dependability study:

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...tings-by-brand

BoomerM3 · 08-08-2008, 07:25 AM

There is no excuse for BMW not getting a higher rating - except poor quality. Why would anyone believe complex ____ (whatever) is an excuse for quality.

Thello · 08-08-2008, 07:39 AM

Hmm. I recently got rid of a Cadillac CTS-V for my 335. Not even close with the bimmer being much higher quality and much more reliable.

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PiperG Private First Class 5 Rep 128 Posts Drives: '08 E90 335i Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gilbert, AZ iTrader: (0)	BMW 7th in reliablity Just saw the new report from JD Power. BMW came in 7th, with Lexus coming in 1st again. Still not too bad! But Mercery and Buick better than bimmers? C'mon! Here's the top 10. The study was based on 3 years of ownership. 1. Lexus 2.Mercery 3.Cadillac 4.Toyota 5.Acura 6.Buick 7.BMW 8.Lincoln 9.Honda 10. Jaguar __________________ 2008 E90 335i.\| Montego \| Black Leather\| Aluminum Trim \| Premium \| Sports Package with 18's \| Sirius Sat Radio \| Comfort Access \| Rear fold down seats \| Ordered on May 05, 2008. \| Born on May 15, 2008 / Delivered July 23, 2008
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cipher5 561 Rep 3,472 Posts Drives: 2020 Donington Grey X3M Comp Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (12)	Although it should be better than 7, these ratings are kinda skewed IMO. The electronics of a BMW are far more complex and integrated than a Buick or Mercury.
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McLuVan Lieutenant General 313 Rep 13,094 Posts Drives: ///M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Socal~818~ iTrader: (1)	I call bs __________________
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PiperG Private First Class 5 Rep 128 Posts Drives: '08 E90 335i Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gilbert, AZ iTrader: (0)	The electronics of the bimmers have always been their weak link IMO. Still better than buick or mercury, though. __________________ 2008 E90 335i.\| Montego \| Black Leather\| Aluminum Trim \| Premium \| Sports Package with 18's \| Sirius Sat Radio \| Comfort Access \| Rear fold down seats \| Ordered on May 05, 2008. \| Born on May 15, 2008 / Delivered July 23, 2008
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ages944 Captain 99 Rep 990 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago 'burbs iTrader: (0)	As complex as some BMWs are, 7th isn't bad. __________________ BMW : Sine qua non Mods: Blacklines \| Rear Seat Power Outlets \| Rear Fog Lights \| Ashtray Garage Door Opener
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madisonsfinest Private First Class 5 Rep 176 Posts Drives: 06 325i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WI iTrader: (0)	Looks like mercedes didn't make the cut __________________ My Babies...'06 325i blacked out '07 Gsxr 600 blacked out!!!
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josephr25 Major 72 Rep 1,456 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i Coupe [0.00]	I don't know how these ratings are filled... but I've had an 92 SC400 that was nearly flawless until about 200K miles; a 735i that was always blowing hot air and barely starting sometimes; a MB 300E that would shut down randomly (once in the fast lane on the freeway I might add)... and my 350Z which has been solid even with all the junk I put on it. Nissan isn't even top 10... but hopefully my new 335 will reflect it's rank.
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alex2112 Lieutenant 28 Rep 455 Posts Drives: 2016 X1 M-Sport Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: MA iTrader: (4)	Mercury is #2?!? WTF... Honda is #9 and BELOW Buick and Cadillac.... impossible.
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shahils12 BALLER 19 Rep 626 Posts Drives: 2K8 E93, 2K8 E60. N54s Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ATX iTrader: (0)	It's a surprise that Mercedes didn't make the list.... generalizing all of the lineups of cars is pretty much meaningless. For example, MB makes some VERY reliable cars, but their SUVs are horrendous when it comes to reliability. Seeing Mercury as #2 boggles my mind... this is quite difficult to digest.... __________________ 08 335cic Space Grey Saddle Brown Light Poplar Premium Sport Navi CA Cold HDrad Ipod Paddle PDC, L7, Auto 35%Ceramic 08 535i Space Grey Black Dakota, Premium, Sport, Navi, Cold, Sat, Auto, Ipod, PDC, AS, L7, 35% Ceramic 08 S65 AMG P3. Black on Black. Enough Said
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BoomerM3 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 48 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. FL iTrader: (0)	There is no excuse for BMW not getting a higher rating - except poor quality. Why would anyone believe complex ____ (whatever) is an excuse for quality.
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Thello New Member 0 Rep 26 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Convertible Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (0)	Hmm. I recently got rid of a Cadillac CTS-V for my 335. Not even close with the bimmer being much higher quality and much more reliable.
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