2013 Model S P85 for $37k vs new model 3 for $55k

bimmer456 · 10-06-2018, 10:50 AM

So which would you get? The model s has free unlimited supercharging. There will be more deals like this making getting a new model 3 less attractive.

Red Bread · 10-06-2018, 12:35 PM

Is free Supercharging a big deal? We'd use either as a city car and 99% of charging would be at home. I can't see going all EV and would just use an ICE car for road trips, negating any value in the Supercharger network for us.

Model S is huge and holds no interest to me. But the 3 is an ugly muffin, so I suppose my answer is wait for the Taycan.

RM7 · 10-06-2018, 01:01 PM

Many hotels have EV hookups across the country now. I’d get the S, the 3 is much smaller and therefore less practical for a variety of activities.

eluded · 10-08-2018, 03:21 AM

The three is one of the ugliest cars sold on the market right now.

How long does the battery last in an S before it has to be replaced?

GOLFFRR · 10-08-2018, 06:36 AM

isn't there some sort of disclaimer when you buy a used tesla? I am not expert but I thought I heard something about when you buy a used tesla the warranty on the car or parts of the warranty are no longer available? a neighbor of mine has 2 of them and I would have sworn he was telling me something about that but maybe he was mistaken. I thought there was some sort of hiccup when it comes to buying a used tesla, anyone know anything about this that could clear it up for me?

**just did a quick google search. looks like if you buy a used unit through tesla dealer you get the warranty but if you buy from a third party or non tesla dealer you do not. the battery warranty however travels with the car from buyer to buyer up to 125k miles.

bimmer456 · 10-08-2018, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

isn't there some sort of disclaimer when you buy a used tesla? I am not expert but I thought I heard something about when you buy a used tesla the warranty on the car or parts of the warranty are no longer available? a neighbor of mine has 2 of them and I would have sworn he was telling me something about that but maybe he was mistaken. I thought there was some sort of hiccup when it comes to buying a used tesla, anyone know anything about this that could clear it up for me?

**just did a quick google search. looks like if you buy a used unit through tesla dealer you get the warranty but if you buy from a third party or non tesla dealer you do not. the battery warranty however travels with the car from buyer to buyer up to 125k miles.

This was a CPO Tesla so it has a warranty to 100k miles though admittedly that's not that far away as it has 72k miles. It is a loaded P85 with every option however.

bimmer456 · 10-08-2018, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by eluded

The three is one of the ugliest cars sold on the market right now.

How long does the battery last in an S before it has to be replaced?

I've heard they can go for quite awhile without showing wear. Haven't heard of one needing replacement thus far. The battery warranty is for 8 years unlimited miles.

Agstexas · 10-08-2018, 08:07 AM

Having seen the former Tesla engineer that started his own YouTube and rebuilds Teslas from wrecked vehicles he buys...... I wouldn't buy a Tesla period.

The fact they don't even offer you parts for replacement, or support outside of their dealership network is bogus.

It's just a tech company, not an automaker.

Germanauto · 10-08-2018, 08:52 AM

A used Tesla, especially one with enough miles on it to now be worth $37k, is a very bad idea.

I'd roll with the 3.

Machinebuilder · 10-08-2018, 09:08 AM

It's intriguing. I like Teslas. Everyone's life and needs are different. I would do your own market comparison and think about your needs and how you would use the car. If you can, take it for a test drive. Do it and see what you think. If it fits your lifestyle, it is appealing. If not, BMW's are a safe choice.

bimmer456 · 10-08-2018, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Agstexas

Having seen the former Tesla engineer that started his own YouTube and rebuilds Teslas from wrecked vehicles he buys...... I wouldn't buy a Tesla period.

The fact they don't even offer you parts for replacement, or support outside of their dealership network is bogus.

It's just a tech company, not an automaker.

Yeah I've seen those vids too. There is a whole cottage industry dedicated to rebuilding salvage Tesla's that's staring to develop. I think he rebuilt a model s for like $9k net or something like that.

FC4 · 10-08-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Agstexas

The fact they don't even offer you parts for replacement, or support outside of their dealership network is bogus.

Yep...Apple pretty much does the same thing, and look at what a failure that has been.

Agstexas · 10-08-2018, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FC4

Yep...Apple pretty much does the same thing, and look at what a failure that has been.

Lol, I'm an Android guy so it's platform is useless to me. Though the aftermarket components world has done a pretty good job at skirting around them. I mean the screen repair industry alone took what was an entire replacement phone down to techs giving you a new screen for $80-100.

I've seen you're heavily invested into Telsa. As a shareholder, what would you change if you truly had a say?

Agstexas · 10-08-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmer456

Yeah I've seen those vids too. There is a whole cottage industry dedicated to rebuilding salvage Tesla's that's staring to develop. I think he rebuilt a model s for like $9k net or something like that.

I'll never forget seeing this totalled P100D.... such a waste.

Never_Enough · 10-09-2018, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eluded

The three is one of the ugliest cars sold on the market right now.

How long does the battery last in an S before it has to be replaced?

The S is ugly too

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