Looking at fun cars

upstatedoc · 08-09-2018, 01:22 PM

Most recent car I am looking at is 2007 M5 manual with 64k on it. Dealer is asking $23k. Does it sound fun or steer clear?

The Wind Breezes · 08-09-2018, 01:25 PM

Stay the hell away from that car. You will spend a ton of money on it, guaranteed.

Mingwan · 08-09-2018, 01:48 PM

It sounds fun only if you have the money to repair the car when something goes wrong.

You’d have to define fun, but if I were to look for a cheap thrill you can’t go wrong with something like an s2k unless you’re a bigger guy.

upstatedoc · 08-09-2018, 01:50 PM

Well the question is how much is too much. It's a BMW M so I know I will be sinking money into it. It won't be tracked nor a daily driver just something to take out on weekends and scare the neighbors

upstatedoc · 08-09-2018, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mingwan

you can’t go wrong with something like an s2k unless you’re a bigger guy.

funny you mentioned that, nope I don't fit. No mazda miata either

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 08-09-2018, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

Well the question is how much is too much. It's a BMW M so I know I will be sinking money into it. It won't be tracked nor a daily driver just something to take out on weekends and scare the neighbors

theres a lot better you can buy for 23k to scare neighbors. Shit if your going doing this road. Buy a fuckin v12 amg and call it a day...just get ready to bend over

SunnyD · 08-09-2018, 02:01 PM

Getting the manual will save you from any expensive SMG repairs, but you'll still have to address rod bearings and potentially VANOS issues. Plus that thing gets about 11.5 MPG driving like a grandma and drinks a liter of oil every 1,000 miles.

With all that said, I miss mine everyday and would pick up another in a heartbeat. With Eisenmann Race exhaust, it wailed like a Gallardo.

Mingwan · 08-09-2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

Well the question is how much is too much. It's a BMW M so I know I will be sinking money into it. It won't be tracked nor a daily driver just something to take out on weekends and scare the neighbors

Well, if the engine issues occur or if it goes which is very possible, the cost of repairing or replacing it might very well exceed the cost of purchasing the car in your case.

S85 and reliability are certainly not synonymous with one another. I have a friend that daily’d a manual e60 M5, and he had fun with it without too many issues occurring. So who knows, you might get lucky. I personally just wouldn’t trust one coming out of a dealership, though, unless their reputation was high.

xander_g · 08-09-2018, 02:12 PM

Buy it and stroke it.

upstatedoc · 08-09-2018, 04:10 PM

Going to drive it on saturday, also will press dealer for warranty (it is a BMW dealer) I've been poking around on different forums, seems the 6MT doesn't have quite the problems of the SMG but all concurred that it will need rod bearings at some point

PINeely · 08-09-2018, 04:27 PM

Big problems from the VANOS solenoids and throttle body actuators on those. Not incredibly difficult jobs but expensive parts (keep in mind when you replace something on that car you will usually be replacing two of them, one on each bank). Rod bearings are another common problem.

Probably the most fun car I've ever owned though.

I tend to agree you can get into something better for 23k but I doubt you'd be unhappy with the M5.

upstatedoc · 08-09-2018, 04:52 PM

just found out they mistakenly labeled it as manual transmission when it is really an SMG.

JamesWWIII · 08-09-2018, 04:54 PM

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just found out they mistakenly labeled it as manual transmission when it is really an SMG.

Whew...that was a close one.

Your bank account will thank you.

BayE30 · 08-09-2018, 06:08 PM

T/A and RB's are same issues as s65 m3s....no big deal. T/A you take care of when its an issue, RB you do preventatively to save the cost of a replacement motor. Vanos issues are kinda different story, and dont even mess with SMG...

Never_Enough · 08-10-2018, 07:37 AM

Buy a C6Z

upstatedoc · 08-10-2018, 08:02 AM

I said to hell with the M5, test drove a Stinger GT last night and will crunch some numbers with the sales guy after work

P1 · 08-10-2018, 08:31 AM

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I said to hell with the M5, test drove a Stinger GT last night and will crunch some numbers with the sales guy after work

Why not buy a cool muscle car or something? Or was the Kia comment a joke?

upstatedoc · 08-10-2018, 08:54 AM

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Why not buy a cool muscle car or something? Or was the Kia comment a joke?

stop, you're killing me

already have a muscle car, see sig

Yapakanichi · 08-10-2018, 09:11 AM

man I dunno....a fun car....what are your requirements? Hell I bought a Z4 cause I wanted a fun DD.

Does it need backseats? Or can it be a two-seater??

P1 · 08-10-2018, 09:44 AM

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stop, you're killing me

already have a muscle car, see sig

I see a Durango and two BMWs. Where is the muscle car?

Never_Enough · 08-10-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

stop, you're killing me

already have a muscle car, see sig

404musclecarnotfound

upstatedoc · 08-10-2018, 10:53 AM

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man I dunno....a fun car....what are your requirements? Hell I bought a Z4 cause I wanted a fun DD.

Does it need backseats? Or can it be a two-seater??

I have three boys so back seat required just in case

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I see a Durango and two BMWs. Where is the muscle car?

Anti-Prius get's 13 mpg, does that qualify it as a MC?

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upstatedoc I'll get back to you 7541 Rep 2,132 Posts Drives: blue streak Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: not downstate iTrader: (2)	Looking at fun cars - 2007 M5 Most recent car I am looking at is 2007 M5 manual with 64k on it. Dealer is asking $23k. Does it sound fun or steer clear? __________________ 2018 Stinger GT 2009 E90 N51 /Active Autowerke Stage 2 tune/BMW Performance Exhaust/ Countermeasure enthusiast.
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Mingwan Major 1891 Rep 1,340 Posts Drives: X1 Individual custom paint Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Kansas iTrader: (0)	It sounds fun only if you have the money to repair the car when something goes wrong. You’d have to define fun, but if I were to look for a cheap thrill you can’t go wrong with something like an s2k unless you’re a bigger guy.
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upstatedoc I'll get back to you 7541 Rep 2,132 Posts Drives: blue streak Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: not downstate iTrader: (2)	Well the question is how much is too much. It's a BMW M so I know I will be sinking money into it. It won't be tracked nor a daily driver just something to take out on weekends and scare the neighbors __________________ 2018 Stinger GT 2009 E90 N51 /Active Autowerke Stage 2 tune/BMW Performance Exhaust/ Countermeasure enthusiast.
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SunnyD Major 480 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Beach, CA iTrader: (1)	Getting the manual will save you from any expensive SMG repairs, but you'll still have to address rod bearings and potentially VANOS issues. Plus that thing gets about 11.5 MPG driving like a grandma and drinks a liter of oil every 1,000 miles. With all that said, I miss mine everyday and would pick up another in a heartbeat. With Eisenmann Race exhaust, it wailed like a Gallardo. __________________ '11 ///M3 E90 ZCP \| DCT '06 ///M5 \| SMG - Gone '98 ///M3 \| 5MT - Gone '07 ///M Coupe \| 6MT - Gone
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upstatedoc I'll get back to you 7541 Rep 2,132 Posts Drives: blue streak Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: not downstate iTrader: (2)	Going to drive it on saturday, also will press dealer for warranty (it is a BMW dealer) I've been poking around on different forums, seems the 6MT doesn't have quite the problems of the SMG but all concurred that it will need rod bearings at some point __________________ 2018 Stinger GT 2009 E90 N51 /Active Autowerke Stage 2 tune/BMW Performance Exhaust/ Countermeasure enthusiast.
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PINeely Lieutenant Colonel 1080 Rep 1,912 Posts Drives: 2013 535i, 2015 Tundra 1794 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jackson, MS iTrader: (2)	Big problems from the VANOS solenoids and throttle body actuators on those. Not incredibly difficult jobs but expensive parts (keep in mind when you replace something on that car you will usually be replacing two of them, one on each bank). Rod bearings are another common problem. Probably the most fun car I've ever owned though. I tend to agree you can get into something better for 23k but I doubt you'd be unhappy with the M5. Last edited by PINeely; 08-09-2018 at 04:35 PM..
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Yapakanichi Monkey Marshall 651 Rep 218 Posts Drives: 2005 Z4 3.0i Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	man I dunno....a fun car....what are your requirements? Hell I bought a Z4 cause I wanted a fun DD. Does it need backseats? Or can it be a two-seater??
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