What do you think about the new Supra sharing the BMW in-line six?

John dillinger · 05-19-2018, 09:48 AM

zamboni · 05-19-2018, 11:57 AM

That is good news for BMW sell more engines.

shortseller · 05-19-2018, 12:06 PM

They do for others as well so why not Supra? BMW makes great motors to be sure!

mkoesel · 05-19-2018, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by John dillinger

Keep in mind, there are currently no known plans for an S55 or S58 powered Supra. It will use the B58 at launch, and perhaps indefinitely. There are rumors of a hybrid too, but so far nothing has been confirmed by inside info.

I thought it was worth clarifying that.

Germanauto · 05-19-2018, 01:23 PM

It doesn't bother me.

N55darksoul · 05-19-2018, 01:23 PM

In reading around... most Toyota Supra fan boys are not too happy about the BMW engine in their beloved reliable Toyota Supra.....

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Alexis@psi · 05-19-2018, 02:01 PM

I don't believe the Supra should be revived at all, it's such an iconic car and I truly believe they should leave it at that.

But... since that's not an option, I think a BMW motor is a great choice, after all they make some good ones!

Mingwan · 05-19-2018, 02:42 PM

B58 seems to be a pretty stout engine. Not sure it will ever live up to the 2jz, though.

Darth One · 05-19-2018, 03:59 PM

I think it will decimate all - after you put fifteen grand in it or more...

StuP · 05-19-2018, 04:57 PM

Shame, less and less diversity in the motoring world, so many common parts bins already.

Mingwan · 05-19-2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth One

I think it will decimate all - after you put fifteen grand in it or more...

B58's will pull a premium during race wars.

N55darksoul · 05-19-2018, 08:57 PM

It just seems for a car that is going to cost north of 70k probably that it is not staying true to its past....just doesn't seem worth it as it is not really a "supra" with a BMW engine...not really excited about it at that price either...

SakhirM4 · 05-19-2018, 09:24 PM

McLaren F1 had a BMW engine and nobody thought of it as a lesser McLaren.

N55darksoul · 05-19-2018, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SakhirM4

McLaren F1 had a BMW engine and nobody thought of it as a lesser McLaren.

The Mclaren was always a super car...focused on speed.

While the Supra was one that emerged over time and was more of a tuners car that really took off with that tuning scene in the late 90's.
So there is a special era and group of people that see the car with the 2JZ engine as something special and dumping a BMW in it and having a body that resembles the supra with a high price tag ...not sure that is going to cut it. Of course that is just my opinion...and maybe that is not there target market...

Everyone loves a fast car so that may be the key...

PshhhhhMW · 05-19-2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth One

I think it will decimate all - after you put fifteen grand in it or more...

Nice car.. what's the retail on one of those?

jninja · 05-19-2018, 11:18 PM

What if Toyota brought back an exact duplicate of the last gen Supra...to the Tee... no manufacturer ever does that, but man would that be an awesome experiment... pretty sure the market on 97' Supra's would drop like an anvil... from $70k to $7k. like. that.

F32Fleet · 05-20-2018, 07:46 AM

Didn"y Toyota reach a deal a few yrs ago to buy a ton of BMW 4-cyl diesel engines?

c1pher · 05-20-2018, 08:38 AM

BMW makes great I6 motors and I think it’s good for BMW financially and wonderful for Toyota since it really doesn’t have that caliber of engine and saved them a ton in development costs. I’d buy one if the price is right.

supra93 · 05-20-2018, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by N55darksoul

It just seems for a car that is going to cost north of 70k probably that it is not staying true to its past....just doesn't seem worth it as it is not really a "supra" with a BMW engine...not really excited about it at that price either...

Toyota designers have hinted at $50-$60k in the past. SupraMKV's insider also mention that Tada-san it should start $55k.

Never_Enough · 05-20-2018, 02:21 PM

So it'll no longer have Toyota reliability or maintenance ease. Should be a great selling point

SakhirM4 · 05-20-2018, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MGM135is

BMW makes great I6 motors and I think it’s good for BMW financially and wonderful for Toyota since it really doesn’t have that caliber of engine and saved them a ton in development costs. I’d buy one if the price is right.

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Originally Posted by Never_Enough

So it'll no longer have Toyota reliability or maintenance ease. Should be a great selling point

Glad to see everyone agrees

After owning BMWs for over 40 years, I guess I missed the part about the engines being unreliable. Only engine that I had to replace was in my 1995 540i because of the nikasil problem. BMW replaced the motor under warranty even though the car was no longer in warranty.

Never_Enough · 05-21-2018, 10:39 AM

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Glad to see everyone agrees

After owning BMWs for over 40 years, I guess I missed the part about the engines being unreliable. Only engine that I had to replace was in my 1995 540i because of the nikasil problem. BMW replaced the motor under warranty even though the car was no longer in warranty.

Everything around the motor will break. Too many electronics & shit. SO what good is a good motor when everything around it sucks?

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