[rainfall]

Subaru BRZ with big wing - why no turbo though?

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...sti-ra-friend/

No turbo?

A new version of the Subaru BRZ is here, and as suspected, it’s not packing a single horsepower more than the standard model. It’s the latest BRZ tS, and unlike the original, Japan-only version, this one’s heading Stateside.

500 examples will make their way to US Subaru dealers - and US Subaru dealers only - in early 2018, with a raft of aero and chassis improvements.


Subaru - The New Subaru BRZ tS Is Here, And It's Brought Along A WRX STI RA Friend - News
On the bodywork front, it’s rocking a massive, manually adjustable carbonfibre wing, STI front, rear and side “underspoilers” and a Cherry Blossom Red grille accent.

The BRZ’s handling has been spruced up thanks to the addition of Sachs springs and dampers, backed up by V-bracing in the engine compartment and draw stiffeners under the body to reduce flex.

Lightweight 18-inch STI wheels have also been added, wrapped in 215/40 R18 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres front and rear. Peer through the new multi-spoke rims, and you’ll spy beefy Brembo brake callipers.

Subaru - The New Subaru BRZ tS Is Here, And It's Brought Along A WRX STI RA Friend - News
On the inside, you’ll find a massive serving of Alcantara, splashes of red for contrast, and a smattering of tS logos. You also get a unique gauge cluster visor, a “cast black” finish for the centre console and a frameless rear-view mirror.

So it’s another Toyobaru BR-86 with a bunch of tasty changes, without the boost in power we’re - rightly or wrongly - craving. But don’t worry, as this isn’t the only car Subaru is revealing today.


Subaru - The New Subaru BRZ tS Is Here, And It's Brought Along A WRX STI RA Friend - News
The company has also cooked up a special edition WRX STI that revives the legendary Type RA (Record Attempt) name. Unlike the BRZ tS, it’s actually been given a small increase in power: it produces 306bhp, thanks to the presence of a new STI cold air intake and freer-flowing performance exhaust. It’s also been given beefier pistons and a fettled ECU.

It’s lighter than a standard STI too, thanks to its carbon fibre roof, missing spare tyre, carbon fibre rear wing and lighweight forged BBS wheels. On the subject of the rims, they’re wrapped in Yokohama Advan Sports boots.

Subaru - The New Subaru BRZ tS Is Here, And It's Brought Along A WRX STI RA Friend - News
The six-speed manual gearbox has been given a shorter ratio third cog, plus a short shifter. The suspension meanwhile has been thoroughly re-worked with inverted struts at the front, double wishbones at the rear and Bilstein dampers all round. Bringing things to a stop are Brembo six-piston callipers at the front backed up by dual piston jobbies at the rear, squeezing cross-drilled rotors.

Like the tS, only 500 will be built, all available through US Subaru dealers in early 2018. Pricing and full specifications for each will be available later this year.

[ShocknAwe]

All I saw in that article was that the STi RA is getting beefier pistons.

[DrnknCamel]

Yes i dont understand why they wouldnt bring out a turbo version?

[c1pher]

I mean everyone I talk to say lack of power is what holds them back on buying one.

[JsL]

I'm glad they are beefing up the chassis to handle the monstrous torque the engine produces.

Originally Posted by MGM135is

I mean everyone I talk to say lack of power is what holds them back on buying one.

Agreed

[Mr Carrots]

Smart move putting Brembos on those monster wheels, a car with the same raw horsepower as a civic needs all the stopping power it can get.

Maybe its a bay area thing but the owners of these ridiculous cars have on a few occasions indicated that they want a Fast and Furious style street race with me.

[rainfall]

I simply don't understand why. Is that emissions that is holding Subaru back? It can't be as it is a low production model. Would that be crash test then?

[RSXDC5]

Or, you could buy one of the many turbo kits available for this more expensive, yet still underperforming brz/frs/86 and maybe be satisfied?? 300whp on e85 is pretty attainable and quick too

[3rdcoast228i]

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

Or, you could buy one of the many turbo kits available for this more expensive, yet still underperforming brz/frs/86 and maybe be satisfied?? 300whp on e85 is pretty attainable and quick too

It's ridiculous to spend 5k plus labor to buy something the factory should offer. (Plus voids warranty)

It's a great platform that just lacks power. Offer it with just a 50hp bump and you would see much more interest.

[c1pher]

I would think the execs know this. Maybe it would reduce WRX sales but Toyota doesn't really have an equivalent. The RC is also a Lexus and more of a grand tourer.

[Fakemike]

[c1pher]

More poseur than raceur.

[Mingwan]

Reminds me of an S2000 CR....

Rather have an S2000 CR

[NickyC]

So it can't even pass a minivan but has huge Brembos and a wing. Got it.

[kprocivic]

Originally Posted by Mingwan

Reminds me of an S2000 CR....

Rather have an S2000 CR

s2k cr was an excellent vehicle.

people always complain about power. I really wonder how many of these complainers actually get to the cars limit.

[3rdcoast228i]

It doesn't make it right but people do look at specs when buying cars.

Just about every manufacturer makes a sports car in the same price range that puts out more power.

[kprocivic]

Originally Posted by 3rdcoast228i

It doesn't make it right but people do look at specs when buying cars.

Just about every manufacturer makes a sports car in the same price range that puts out the same power.

fixed. there are a ton of cars in the same segment that make the same power.

[Red Bread]

Wait, aside from the 150hp Miata, what are its competitors?

I've driven the BRZ a handful of times and it's not so much the lack of power as the horrible torque dip at 4.5k rpm. Makes it harder than my dads old FD RX7 to be smooth through an apex.

[kprocivic]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Wait, aside from the 150hp Miata, what are its competitors?

I've driven the BRZ a handful of times and it's not so much the lack of power as the horrible torque dip at 4.5k rpm. Makes it harder than my dads old FD RX7 to be smooth through an apex.

civic si, fiat 124 spider, ford fiesta, nismo juke, what was the scion tc, chevy sonic rs, dodge dart sxt rallye. I'm sure i'm missing some.

[3rdcoast228i]

I said same price range, not same segment.

It's silly to think that people aren't going to see what they can get for the same money.

Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers all can be had for the same price. Even a base hyundai genesis coupe is going to be only few k more with 348hp

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by kprocivic

civic si, fiat 124 spider, ford fiesta, nismo juke, what was the scion tc, chevy sonic rs, dodge dart sxt rallye. I'm sure i'm missing some.

Fwd isn't really comparable. The Hyundai and domestics are much heavier and more GT oriented, but at least driven from the same end.

The Miata is the closest competitor, but lacks any sense of a rear seat. But even down 50hp, it's quicker because of its lighter weight, has hugely better steering and doesn't have the awful power curve of the GT86.

[kprocivic]

Originally Posted by 3rdcoast228i

I said same price range, not same segment.

It's silly to think that people aren't going to see what they can get for the same money.

Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers all can be had for the same price. Even a base hyundai genesis coupe is going to be only few k more with 348hp

Lol please refrain from posting about things you obviously have no clue about.