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So I have the X5 right now, and although it's doing its job just fine, this is not a vehicle I'd ever own out of warranty. And I'm not someone who switches cars very often, so once the X5 no longer has warranty, I want to buy an SUV that I can own carefree, rack up the miles on, and not have to worry about something expensive breaking.

What does everyone think of the LX 570? Seems big enough, based on the Land Cruiser and it's something I think I can mess bit with a bit.

Anything else I should look at?

[Red Bread]

If an LX470 isn't too big, a Suburban/Escalade/Tahoe, etc sure seems better.

A friend who's a mechanic has said that Land Cruisers are the one Japanese car that match or exceed Germans in maintenance cost.

[geneatals]

My wife has a 2011 honda pilot (touring)..things been rock solid...60K miles on the ticker with no major issue, just the usual maintanence...

[135TX]

The nobrainer is a 4runner, easily see those do 200-300k miles-
and there are some packages with leather and what not that could make it closer to lexus luxury...

[Spaceman Spiff]

I've heard good things about the new XC90, although it's too early for reliability reports. There were a few posts here by people who jumped to the Volvo from X5s with no regrets.

[overcoil]

like mentioned previous seems like people who know buy the Sequoia w/o the electronic modulated air suspension system. The land cruiser/ lexus electronic suspension will need repair out of warranty.
Obviously you have to test drive, but the 2016 Honda Pilot - check it out because for a starting price of $32000 ( inventory is low since Pilot is just hitting showrooms ) it feels like a great buy.

[TahoeM3]

How about a CPO X5? I just picked up a '13 with 20k miles and a 6yr 100k mile CPO warranty. There are lots out there.

[timweezy]

4Runner no brainer

[AlphaOmega4]

New Acura MDX

Honda Pilot

LEXUS LX

Any of those would be a great buy



We have a 2015 Grand Cherokee that has been Great!

I can def recommend the New Jeep Grand Cherokee as well.

I also really am loving the new XC90 VOLVO..... but too soon to judge reliability.

GOOD LUCK..

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU PICK UP..

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

If an LX470 isn't too big, a Suburban/Escalade/Tahoe, etc sure seems better.

A friend who's a mechanic has said that Land Cruisers are the one Japanese car that match or exceed Germans in maintenance cost.

Not opposed to a Denali. I'm surprised to hear that Land Cruisers are expensive to maintain. That's disappointing to hear...

Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff

I've heard good things about the new XC90, although it's too early for reliability reports. There were a few posts here by people who jumped to the Volvo from X5s with no regrets.

We've had the old XC90 in the family, and have to say the new one looks very nice. But I'm looking to buy used, and I doubt I can get something under $45K before TT&L in the form of a new XC90.

Originally Posted by ScottSinger

like mentioned previous seems like people who know buy the Sequoia w/o the electronic modulated air suspension system. The land cruiser/ lexus electronic suspension will need repair out of warranty.
Obviously you have to test drive, but the 2016 Honda Pilot - check it out because for a starting price of $32000 ( inventory is low since Pilot is just hitting showrooms ) it feels like a great buy.

Had not thought about that. All the suspension stuff seems like fun toys, until it craps out on you. Good point.

Originally Posted by TahoeM3

How about a CPO X5? I just picked up a '13 with 20k miles and a 6yr 100k mile CPO warranty. There are lots out there.

I have an '11 X5 now, so I'd either look at the new body style X5 but not another E70. But I'd have the same problem: another BMW that I'm not comfortably owning past it's warranty period. That's what I'm trying to get away from. I owned an '04 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel prior to my X5 and that I owned that thing for 9 years and over 100K miles with zero issues. Trying to get back into that mode.

Originally Posted by AlphaOmega4

New Acura MDX

Honda Pilot

LEXUS LX

Any of those would be a great buy



We have a 2015 Grand Cherokee that has been Great!

I can def recommend the New Jeep Grand Cherokee as well.

I also really am loving the new XC90 VOLVO..... but too soon to judge reliability.

GOOD LUCK..

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU PICK UP..

I've checked out the Grand Cherokee, but feel like I need something bigger than that. It felt smaller than my current X5. But the LX is something I'll check out.

[Polo08816]

To be honest, I'm a fan of the 2016+ Ford Explorer Sport.

It rides well for an SUV its size. It's not too expensive. And it has decent passing power with the Ecoboost V6.

It also has been thoroughly tested since it's used a severe duty fleet vehicle.

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Originally Posted by Polo08816

To be honest, I'm a fan of the 2016+ Ford Explorer Sport.

It rides well for an SUV its size. It's not too expensive. And it has decent passing power with the Ecoboost V6.

It also has been thoroughly tested since it's used a severe duty fleet vehicle.

We have a 2001 Explorer Sport right now and even though it's probably for $200, I have a hard time letting go of it. It just keeps running, and it doesn't cost me anything but fuel and basic maintenance. I take it most of the time over my X5 since it's just a "slap it in D and go" type of car.

[Mr. Liu]

Any gen 4runner

[Nkc]

Any special purpose for this suv? Towing? Power? Handling? Seating capacity?

If not then Murano.

[omegaSMP300]

My SUV of choice is a Macan S. True it is quite a bit smaller than the X5 but for a sporty, luxurious SUV it covers the bases. And being a Porsche it should be quite reliable (find a CPO'd one and you're set).

I shy away from Lexus. Plush ride but the infotainment system is garbage and they are bland looking in my opinion. It also lacks the sportyness of an X5. That being said a Lexus is a trooper and would be problem free. Good luck in your search!

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by omegaSMP300

My SUV of choice is a Macan S. True it is quite a bit smaller than the X5 but for a sporty, luxurious SUV it covers the bases. And being a Porsche it should be quite reliable (find a CPO'd one and you're set).

I don't know about Macan but Cayenne is garbage in my opinion, I know three very close that were non-stop trouble, and trouble. One was the glory of the most unreliable and defective machine I've ever seen.
Porsche being reliable is just a perception, not a fact.
Not to mention, the guy wants out of X5 due to costs and we guide him to a more expensive brand.

In regards with the X5 I don't see them as unreliable, not sure about the new one, but I know several that are 8-10 years, one in my family, that run without any issue. The closest that I know never had a problem except usual stuff.

However, if I need to pick something out of the german ring it will probably be a Honda or Toyota, or even an Explorer. Ford came a long way too, except the resale value is not the same.

[drewnel22]

My vote would be with the 4runner as well. I would like to pick up a 4th gen. They also hold their value really well.

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Originally Posted by Nkc

Any special purpose for this suv? Towing? Power? Handling? Seating capacity?

If not then Murano.

I need it to haul two adults and two small children, plus a dog. I want to be able to put my bikes on a hitch without having to throw them in the back. If it's something I can take offroad, then I'll see that as a bonus. I like big body SUVs, so nothing smaller than an X5.

Originally Posted by Tracus

I don't know about Macan but Cayenne is garbage in my opinion, I know three very close that were non-stop trouble, and trouble. One was the glory of the most unreliable and defective machine I've ever seen.
Porsche being reliable is just a perception, not a fact.
Not to mention, the guy wants out of X5 due to costs and we guide him to a more expensive brand.

In regards with the X5 I don't see them as unreliable, not sure about the new one, but I know several that are 8-10 years, one in my family, that run without any issue. The closest that I know never had a problem except usual stuff.

However, if I need to pick something out of the german ring it will probably be a Honda or Toyota, or even an Explorer. Ford came a long way too, except the resale value is not the same.

My father's on his third X5 and apart from blowing an oil pan on his diesel, they have been quite reliable. However, there's been a few things go wrong with mine, most recently the A/C, that makes me not want to own it out of warranty.

[P1]

I should also add that I'm looking to buy used, and I don't care if it has between 40K and 50K miles on it already. If it's reliable, then the miles should not matter. More concerned about it being clean.

Budget is between 40K and 45K...

[KingOfJericho]

My parents are Toyota people and each car has gone 200+ with only semi-regular oil changes. Our 4Runner was just donated with over 340k on the clock. It was also only on its second set of brake pads (because the factory set was too old, not worn). Truly amazing vehicles but I hate the design of the new generation.

Lexus makes a 4Runner-based vehicle, the GX. Worth taking a look.

[Antonio1988]

Honestly, the most reliable car I ever owned was a 2001 Lincoln Navigator. The car had almost 200k miles when we let it go and the only maintenance issues we ever had were replacing the airbag suspension (less than $1k for all four) and COP's. A good friend of mine has a 2000 Eddie Bauer Expedition with close to 300k miles and the maintenance has been even less. Food for thought if you really want to have a low cost and maintenance car.

[omegaSMP300]

Originally Posted by Tracus

I don't know about Macan but Cayenne is garbage in my opinion, I know three very close that were non-stop trouble, and trouble. One was the glory of the most unreliable and defective machine I've ever seen.
Porsche being reliable is just a perception, not a fact.

I was simply stating my SUV of choice. I specifically did not mention the Cayenne because I would agree it is probably Porsche's most expensive model to maintain. The X5 has been reported to be one of BMW's worse too. But it is good to know not everyone has had to experience that.

Personally, I couldn't go from a BMW to a Honda, Toyota or the like. So much about owning a car for me is the driving experience.