BMW reportedly planning iSUV to take on Tesla Model X

Jason · 06-09-2015, 01:45 PM

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BMW reportedly planning i-branded electric SUV to take on Tesla Model X

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June 9, 2015

FRANKFURT -- BMW plans to build a battery-powered SUV/crossover in the U.S. as a rival to the upcoming Tesla Model X, a German business magazine said.

The plan to build the crossover at BMW's plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina, is awaiting board approval, Wirtschaftswoche reported, citing company sources. A BMW spokesman told Automotive News Europe that the report was “speculation.”

Spartanburg is the carmaker’s global SUV hub. BMW builds the X3, X4, X5 and X6 crossovers at the factory.

BMW CEO Harald Krueger is keen to add an electric SUV to rival the Model X, Wirthschaftswoche said.

The electric crossover would be the third model sold under BMW's i brand, joining the i3 battery-electric hatchback and i8 plug-in hybrid supercar. The i3 and i8 are built in Leipzig, Germany.

Arndt Ellinghorst, head of global automotive research at Evercore ISI, said in an investors note: "In our view an iSUV makes perfect sense for BMW. SUVs are in demand and given the market's reaction to Tesla's Model X so far, it seems to be a good fit for families and suburban commuters.”

Ellinghorst said that it was unrealistic to expect the model much earlier than 2018.

via Automotive News

matbl · 06-09-2015, 03:40 PM

This would be interesting to get scott26's opinion on.
Especially since he previously stated that the next BMWi would be an i5 in 2020.
Scott?

Doctor///M · 06-09-2015, 04:33 PM

I'm in. Can't wait to see what it looks like!!

Pentium · 06-09-2015, 04:33 PM

Who cares about Tesla?
How about concentrating on "Mercedes Benz" instead of Tesla?

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 06-09-2015, 04:35 PM

As people are running away from EVs and hybrids to SUVs... BMW is considering an EV or hybrid SUV?

sdshah · 06-09-2015, 04:38 PM

Should be fun to go 175 miles and then have to go home and charge up...

ShocknAwe · 06-09-2015, 05:02 PM

Bet they'll make a GT and GC version of it.

ORIGIN M. · 06-09-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sdshah

Should be fun to go 175 miles and then have to go home and charge up...

Unless they can start installing a usable lev 3 plugin that's what you will have to do.

I'd like to see an i3 BEV with a lower rear hatch floor so I can put grocery bags back there without having to remove my cargo cover.

And an a model 3 competitor!!!!

beammeupscottie · 06-09-2015, 05:21 PM

Wonder what this will look like?

SCOTT26 · 06-09-2015, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matbl

This would be interesting to get scott26's opinion on.
Especially since he previously stated that the next BMWi would be an i5 in 2020.
Scott?

As the report says it is speculation. It has been discussed But a BMWi SAV crossover could be very interesting indeed.
The next BMWi vehicle is still coming around 2020.

ORIGIN M. · 06-09-2015, 05:57 PM

Interesting... 5 Years is a long time to market.

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

As the report says it is speculation. It has been discussed But a BMWi SAV crossover could be very interesting indeed.
The next BMWi vehicle is still coming around 2020.

Chihuahua · 06-09-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pentium

Who cares about Tesla?

EVERYONE in the EV market cares about Tesla. They are the benchmark, especially in the premium EV segment.

Chihuahua · 06-09-2015, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Interesting... 5 Years is a long time to market.

Agreed, too long if Tesla actually comes through and released the Model 3 in 2017.

antzcrashing · 06-09-2015, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pentium

Who cares about Tesla?
How about concentrating on "Mercedes Benz" instead of Tesla?

Bmw is not competing with tesla, they are just pretending to, like GM and the rest. They will put out cars with 20-50 miles electric range and a gas engine and claim they are alternatives. Tesla is in a league of their own

SCOTT26 · 06-09-2015, 06:16 PM

The issue here is that there are forthcoming eDrive BMW X models arriving now and in the not so distant future that an SUV BMWi vehicle may be counter productive.

The X5 4.0e xDrive is about to arrive on the market as will the X1 2.3e XDrive late next year.
The next generation BMW X3 will be offered the X3 3.0e xDrive. And then the upcoming BMW X5 and X7 will be offered with Performance orientated Power eDrive with xDrive.

As of now BMWi are focusing on the four door BMWi model.

ORIGIN M. · 06-09-2015, 06:38 PM

Musk says... $35K USD before incentives.

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Originally Posted by Kyle B

Agreed, too long if Tesla actually comes through and released the Model 3 in 2017.

IcemanNorway · 06-09-2015, 06:51 PM

Scott, do you know more about engine/el motor package regarding these two?
X1 2.3e XDrive.
X3 3.0e xDrive.
I'm guessing the 1,5 plus el motor for the X1 and 2,0 plus el motor for the X3?
And do you know if the X1 will have front wheel drive for the gasoline engine and rear wheel for the el motor? This making it AWD as long as you have power in the batteries..

Chihuahua · 06-09-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Musk says... $35K USD before incentives.

Yes I read that too. If it looks the part and gets the advertised 200+ mile range then the CPO 128i or E90 328i I'm about to buy might will likely my last BMW for a long while, maybe forever. I would have considered the i3, but the all electric range sucks and it looks atrocious. There isn't a single car BMW manufactures right now that interests me, and I don't really see much on the horizon either. I remember walking into the dealer and wishing I could have one of each. Now they're just....cars.

avantegardestyle · 06-09-2015, 06:56 PM

more and more i am beginning to dislike BMW......
its almost becoming an Expenisve type of ikea for automobiles......

SouthernBoy · 06-09-2015, 07:05 PM

I can't wait to see what it looks like with that M-Sport Package! Oh yeah!

3M TAPE · 06-09-2015, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The issue here is that there are forthcoming eDrive BMW X models arriving now and in the not so distant future that an SUV BMWi vehicle may be counter productive.

The X5 4.0e xDrive is about to arrive on the market as will the X1 2.3e XDrive late next year.
The next generation BMW X3 will be offered the X3 3.0e xDrive. And then the upcoming BMW X5 and X7 will be offered with Performance orientated Power eDrive with xDrive.

As of now BMWi are focusing on the four door BMWi model.

That rendering worries me already.

The_Transporter · 06-09-2015, 07:24 PM

As bad as the tesla x looks I fear it will still be hard for anyone to touch them. Don't get me wrong I would love for this new bmw to compete, but if they take any design cues from the i3 then it will not only be a lesser vehicle (tech and performance wise) but it also won't look any better than the x... Oh did I mention how bad the x looks lol

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