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I have a question
Ev manufacturers replace the battery at 30% degradation. Does this mean that when it hits 30% it must be replaced if one is outside the 100k/8yr limit. Is there a degradation curvature re how quick the degradation progresses once it hits the 30% mark? |
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Tesla isn’t going anywhere. They can’t make enough of them to keep up with the demand.
This is exciting lol
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As for degradation curve... I'm sure it varies by battery size and how the battery is treated etc. Same with ICE if you beat it up, don't change the oil etc the engine will last less than a cared for one and of course you have the one off lemons. Here is the latest data I could find. It's from Tesla so take that as you may, however given how long the model s has been around for they probably have the most long term data. https://electrek.co/2023/04/25/tesla...y-degradation/ |
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Crazy how fucking clueless people are about ev’s.
No wonder they’re scared it’s going to take over soon. Lmaoooo
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I'm actually curious as to how often an individual cell in the battery pack fails. There has been instances where cells have failed in a battery pack and Tesla's policy is to replace the entire pack. Independent shops such as the Electrified Garage has performed work on battery packs with failed cells and were able to salvage the entire pack.
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05-17-2023, 06:55 AM | #2319 |
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Over a span of 10-15 years from personal experience cellphones can hold charge for 24hrs and batteries i find last a lot longer. I'm interested in seeing how cars of today will hold up to ones sold in 10 years. In terms of range and speed of charging longevity.
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05-17-2023, 08:06 AM | #2320 |
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Until you'll charge EVs burning coal somewhere I can't see the point... not to mention batteries pollution. But you know, that's too logical steps
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For me it is about the fun of driving an S Plaid and the benefit of just charging at home from the wall in my garage. Love all of that. Carbon benefits clearly vary by state or region depending on what is used to make electricity.
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Having a dead cell is the same as a lifter going bad or a dropped valve. How often do those happen? Ice isn’t bulletproof in terms of usage. People warm up their car, they break it in if new, they do oil changes etc There’s a small learning curve with owning an ev similar to those who got their first car.
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The way I see it the quicker the charge with the massive electricity boost then the shorter the life span of lithium batteries and there's no known replacement for lithium on the horizon, and power outages at sub stations will become normal, it doesn't take Einstein to work that one out and the gubments haven't a clue what they're doing.
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I'm not the biggest EV fan myself...heck I'm not an EV fan at all, but this is something else.
The speedrecords were done at ATP Papenburg Germany, https://atp-papenburg.de/en/ where we do our driftdays, I was there back in March, it's about 80 miles from here.... But keep in mind this: I saw a 1973 or 1974 Road & Track article maybe 20 years ago already and they did some acceleration tests with the then banned(because horsepowaaah) Porsche 917/30 Can Am. It did 0-200 (which I thought was in km/h , so about 124 mph) in 13 seconds...reasonable I thought. It was in miles per hour, 0-200mph in 13s in 1973. Imagine that. 0-320kmh for us Euro/ROW guys. Enjoy! Cheers Robin |
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If you haven't already, watch his interview with David Faber. So refreshing and non-hive, it made my day.
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Oh dear God let's don't. I'm getting a new car in 30 months. Whoever winds up with my car can get back to you down the road. I just wanted to give a sense of real world range for an EV and not any BS inflated range numbers.
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Don't panic, we will see when we get there. Plus I wonder how much battery technology will improve over the next years. Also, hybrids might have a solution for most drivers.
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God fucking damn it I can’t wait a couple more years til we see some serious shit about this. Can’t wait for the shitty excuses then.
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