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I've never driven, nor ridden in an EV, but would love to take a ride in this beast.
Skip to 4:20 for the good stuff ( i bet Top Gear did that on purpose )
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I don't understand why people hate EV's so much. I assume it was the same way when gas cars came around. I am not the guy thinking I will save the planet in my Pruis. I simply want the speed and torque of an EV and if I can save money by not buying gas that is a bonus.
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This is where I am happy folks hate on EV's. You stay in the gas car and let me get a few years ahead to save a few dollars and enjoy the EV HP and torque.
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That's true, but let's not forget that internal combustion engines can only convert around 28% of fuel energy into kinetic energy, while EVs are much more efficient, achieving around 80% efficiency (from the grid including charging losses) in converting chemical battery energy to kinetic energy. Therefore, a more accurate comparison in terms of actual work being done (motion) would be approximately 33.5 cents of gasoline compared to 18.9 cents for EVs.
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Also, I changed the spark plugs ($100.00) and cleaned the air filter on my X5 this weekend. Next weekend I am doing the transmission fluid($250.00). I added a fuel system cleaner.($20.00) All things I wont have to do with an EV. I am not saying EV's are the solution, but I am willing to try them. I could be wrong in two years I could be completely against EV's, but I will be able to say I know what I am talking about I had an EV. Or I could be saying I'll never buy an ICE vehicle. Why are people so against something they have never tried? That could be beneficial to them.
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05-22-2023, 03:49 PM | #2383 | |
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Are you really saying 13 years from now this won’t improve? It seems that you anti ev people DONT WANT it to improve which is odd. If this was a vote on whether or not you guys want this to happen then that’s a different story. Fact is, it’s going to happen so why not patiently wait for this technology to improve? Because it will.
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It's literally 7 bucks to charge my car. A little more than double if i visit a supercharger. Meanwhile it cost a little over 80 bucks to put 93 in both my other cars.
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The automotive future is bright, but it won't be fully electric. It will be a mix of everything. You can't put all your eggs in one basket. It simply won't work. There is still a ton of untapped efficiency left in ICE vehicles.
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It will only improve over time. You look at the last 10 years and where EV's are today. Can you imagine the next 10 years? It's going to be awesome. Quick battery swap stations. Faster charging times. More technology. Everyone will be driving around in 10 second EV's! This is going to be great! Jetsons here we come!
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Take the IC engine out of the mechanical effort to generate propulsion and make the engine differently. Design it to lose less heat, tune it for max power at a specific RPM and have it connected to just an on-board electrical generator. Make the engine much lighter out of higher temperature-tolerant materials like ceramic. Add in a small battery for peak energy requirements and excess load capture. Up the efficiency of the chemical combustion process and decrease the parasitic loss of moving electricity over hundreds of miles and several transformer stepdowns/stepups to charge a huge, heavy battery. Have the electicty move thru wires for just a few feet with virtually zero energy loss. THAT system is 80% efficient too, possibly more efficient. That series hybrid vehicle still uses gasoline, or diesel, or bio-fuel diesel; it doesn't disrupt the petrochemical industry and doesn't disrupt the electrical energy grid, and reduces mining pollution and the conflict minerals trade. It keeps electricity, jet fuel, heating oil, gasoline, and diesel prices in check. Such a vehicle vastly extends the Earth's remaining oil reserves (if you believe they are finite). THAT is the smart approach and easily accomplished before 2035... Last edited by Efthreeoh; 05-27-2023 at 07:58 AM.. |
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There is definitely some truth to that. For example, why there are no diesel-hybrids available? With such a configuration, one could potentially benefit from the best of both worlds: excellent highway mileage from a diesel powertrain and efficient city low-emission driving on electric motors. Thinking about that I accepted the fact that we do not live in a perfect world, rational decisions our leaders should be making are flawed by politics, agendas, corruption, lobby etc. So let's just hope that common sense will prevail at some point...
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most states charge extra fees for yearly registration for EV's to make up for the lost revenue at the pump.Governments can regulate electricity prices much easier than they can regulate OPEC |
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It's different from state to state, and in Canada province to province, but from what I've seen I don't think the licensing fee of an EV offsets the lost gas tax at the pump, and the fact is licensing fees are already paid by owners of ICE and in many places were waved for EV's. To think EV's will remain cheap to charge and own is probably pie in the sky.
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I'm anti banning the consumption of gasoline because I think it makes for a better portable fuel than a chemical battery. Gasoline/diesel are not bad fuels, we just need to rethink the ways to use them. BEVs are an antiquated design and technology that are ultimately limited in range and recharge performance that will never match ICE. You keep saying the tech will improve but never say how. BEV hasn't improved much in 10 years to get anywhere near gasoline as a fuel source. 25 minutes to 80% (240 miles) is not even close to gasoline. As I showed, my 17-year old E90 has a 480 mile range and 5 minute recharge rate in Winter, Spring, Summer, and Fall. LOL at BEV.
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Yet another talking point on what I brought up many posts back that the lack of a standard for charging will cause all these issues. |
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That thought is a little scary considering how much some BEVs weigh, like the Rivian or Hummer...
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