Why is BMW holding 2023 models that have already arrived in the US?

pstolljr · 04-16-2022, 10:16 AM

My 2023 M850 GC has been sitting at the VPC in New Jersey since 3/31/2022. My dealership says BMW corporate won’t release it to the dealership yet. Very strange.

LOW4LYF · 04-16-2022, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pstolljr

My 2023 M850 GC has been sitting at the VPC in New Jersey since 3/31/2022. My dealership says BMW corporate won’t release it to the dealership yet. Very strange.

They may get some updates at the VDC...

DanG · 04-16-2022, 12:30 PM

They hold them until the official release date.

ZiyaM · 04-16-2022, 12:58 PM

There should be some updates soon. I have read at some web sites. don't remember at which

BMWCCA1 · 04-16-2022, 10:11 PM

It is also possible they don't have final EPA approval and ratings to print the Monroney sticker. It's happened before.

pstolljr · 04-24-2022, 09:35 PM

My 2023 M850 GC is still sitting at the VPC in New Jersey with no known delivery date to the dealership! What is the hold up? It’s been there since 3/31/2022.

lemetier · 04-25-2022, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pstolljr

My 2023 M850 GC is still sitting at the VPC in New Jersey with no known delivery date to the dealership! What is the hold up? It’s been there since 3/31/2022.

EPA Certificate was released yesterday so it shoul be moving soon.

pstolljr · 04-26-2022, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lemetier

EPA Certificate was released yesterday so it shoul be moving soon.

Where do you find this certificate online?

xlover · 04-26-2022, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lemetier

EPA Certificate was released yesterday so it shoul be moving soon.

Where do you find this certificate online?

Not sure if you are trolling??? I'll assume not

He is referring to the EPAs approval of the vehicle to bmw that it meets emissions standards.

This isn't a public process but we are lucky to have insiders in the know….

BMWGirlFL · 04-26-2022, 11:09 AM

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He is referring to the EPAs approval of the vehicle to bmw that it meets emissions standards.

Are you referring to this?
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EPA's Transportation and Air Quality Document Index System (DIS)
Enter a value into one or more of the search parameters below to search for EPA's Transportation and Air Quality documents.

https://dis.epa.gov/otaqpub/

xlover · 04-26-2022, 12:02 PM

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Are you referring to this?

like i said, its great to have those in the know filling in the gaps

BMWCCA1 · 04-26-2022, 12:24 PM

Dated one-month ago.

Anyone else find it odd that it includes the B8 and the M850 in the same certification?

BMWGirlFL · 04-26-2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWCCA1

Dated one-month ago.

Anyone else find it odd that it includes the B8 and the M850 in the same certification?

Same application/test group. Lemetier might be referring to a different certificate.

xlover · 04-26-2022, 01:57 PM

can these be backdated to an application date vs approval date?

Roblwar · 04-26-2022, 02:04 PM

My 2023 M8 GC has been at the Galveston VPC since 3/30. I just spoke with the Genius line and was told it is scheduled for transport this Friday. I'm guessing it was the certificate being released was the trigger.

pstolljr · 04-26-2022, 06:19 PM

Definitely not “trolling”. Just hopeful my car is going to be delivered soon!

lemetier · 04-26-2022, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWCCA1

Dated one-month ago.

Anyone else find it odd that it includes the B8 and the M850 in the same certification?

That's the approval date; not the Publication Date. It was published no more than an hour before my reply above.

US Alpina models are not VIN'd as Alpina cars and have the Basis Variant Type Code and model designation.

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can these be backdated to an application date vs approval date?

No.

BMWCCA1 · 04-26-2022, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lemetier

US Alpina models are not VIN'd as Alpina cars and have the Basis Variant Type Code and model designation.

Which would imply that there is no difference in the engine between the two models.

lemetier · 04-26-2022, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lemetier

US Alpina models are not VIN'd as Alpina cars and have the Basis Variant Type Code and model designation.

Which would imply that there is no difference in the engine between the two models.

Not even remotely implied.

BMWCCA1 · 04-27-2022, 09:48 AM

Well, thanks for that. Still not sure how an EPA certification can cover two different engines, but it apparently is what it is. It's all self-testing anyway.

BMWGirlFL · 04-27-2022, 11:03 AM

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Well, thanks for that. Still not sure how an EPA certification can cover two different engines, but it apparently is what it is. It's all self-testing anyway.

Maybe this older application for a different N63 test group sheds light?
https://dis.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_...d=44790&flag=1

pstolljr · 04-27-2022, 10:18 PM

My dealership called today and said they expect my car in on Friday.

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pstolljr New Member 44 Rep 25 Posts Drives: 2023 M850xi Grand Coupe Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Any update on 2023 8 series release date? My 2023 M850 GC is still sitting at the VPC in New Jersey with no known delivery date to the dealership! What is the hold up? It’s been there since 3/31/2022.
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BMWCCA1 BMW Owner Since 1971 2498 Rep 1,517 Posts Drives: 1964 700 Sport Cabriolet Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central Virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2013 BMW 128i [10.00]	Dated one-month ago. Anyone else find it odd that it includes the B8 and the M850 in the same certification?
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Roblwar New Member 24 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X5, 2023 BMW M8 GC Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Oklahoma iTrader: (0)	My 2023 M8 GC has been at the Galveston VPC since 3/30. I just spoke with the Genius line and was told it is scheduled for transport this Friday. I'm guessing it was the certificate being released was the trigger.
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pstolljr New Member 44 Rep 25 Posts Drives: 2023 M850xi Grand Coupe Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Definitely not “trolling”. Just hopeful my car is going to be delivered soon!
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BMWCCA1 BMW Owner Since 1971 2498 Rep 1,517 Posts Drives: 1964 700 Sport Cabriolet Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Central Virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2013 BMW 128i [10.00]	Well, thanks for that. Still not sure how an EPA certification can cover two different engines, but it apparently is what it is. It's all self-testing anyway.
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pstolljr New Member 44 Rep 25 Posts Drives: 2023 M850xi Grand Coupe Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	2023 M850 GC is on the move! My dealership called today and said they expect my car in on Friday.
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