[Sisyrx]

Originally Posted by wagonallterrain

I think it's delayed introduction so probably going to be available some time next year

My assumption as well. Guess I'll be waiting to pull the trigger for now.

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by Sisyrx

Anyone got info on if the US will get the Adaptive M Suspension & Integral Active Steering? These options are missing from the US M Sport Professional package.

maybe on the m560 ?

[Sisyrx]

Originally Posted by jphcbpa

maybe on the m560 ?

It's on the i5 M60 for EU/CA but missing in US. Super sad...really itching to get my rear into one of these cars!

[Hassan1490]

Why the 530i is way slower than the previous 530i generation?

[wagonallterrain]

Originally Posted by malpatti

From the configurator (which could be wrong): "Bowers & Wilkins® Diamond Surround Sound System has it all: 16 speakers - including exclusive Diamond Dome tweeters, 1,400 watts of audio power, 10 fully active amplification channels, QuantumLogic Surround/Dynamic Sound Equalizing via measuring microphone and three analog crossover networks for consistent sound quality."

Apparently they realized they pasted the wrong thing. This is the updated version:

Bowers & Wilkins® Diamond Surround Sound System delivers balanced, detailed sound to every corner of the 5 Series Sedan with exclusive Diamond Dome tweeters, fully active amplification channels, and QuantumLogic Surround/Dynamic Sound Equalizing.

[wagonallterrain]

Originally Posted by note46

nope, I clicked on the sky lounge information icon on the i5 configurator. I will say that information on the configurator has been wrong in the past.

And they have since corrected it:

Bathe the cabin in light with the Sky Lounge Roof. Its extra-large glass panel includes a power sunshade to shield passengers from excessive glare and heat.

[LVBMW]

Originally Posted by Sisyrx

Anyone got info on if the US will get the Adaptive M Suspension & Integral Active Steering? These options are missing from the US M Sport Professional package.

From the May 2023 BMW USA press release - seems to say these are standard features on the i5 M60 and the M Sport Pro package is not required to get them:

As the top model in the range, the BMW i5 M60 xDrive not only has the most powerful drivetrain, but also comes with standard suspension equipment that ensures the power of its two electric motors can be harnessed to deliver a superior performance experience. Its standard Adaptive M Suspension Professional includes electronically controlled dampers, Integral Active Steering (which allows the rear wheels to turn in or out of phase with the front wheels up to 2.5 degrees), and lowers the ride height by 0.3 inches compared to the standard chassis of the BMW i5 eDrive40. The dynamic performance, agility, and handling precision of the high-performance model are enhanced by standard 19-inch M light alloy wheels with mixed performance tires and a powerful M sport braking system.

[Sisyrx]

Originally Posted by LVBMW

From the May 2023 BMW USA press release - seems to say these are standard features on the i5 M60 and the M Sport Pro package is not required to get them:

As the top model in the range, the BMW i5 M60 xDrive not only has the most powerful drivetrain, but also comes with standard suspension equipment that ensures the power of its two electric motors can be harnessed to deliver a superior performance experience. Its standard Adaptive M Suspension Professional includes electronically controlled dampers, Integral Active Steering (which allows the rear wheels to turn in or out of phase with the front wheels up to 2.5 degrees), and lowers the ride height by 0.3 inches compared to the standard chassis of the BMW i5 eDrive40. The dynamic performance, agility, and handling precision of the high-performance model are enhanced by standard 19-inch M light alloy wheels with mixed performance tires and a powerful M sport braking system.

This is what I believed as well based on the marketing but don't see any reference to either element (Adaptive or IAS) in the configurator OR the ordering guide for US.

[LVBMW]

Originally Posted by Sisyrx

This is what I believed as well based on the marketing but don't see any reference to either element (Adaptive or IAS) in the configurator OR the ordering guide for US.

Yeah, I agree! But, the website is very scant on listing the standard specifications/features. The ordering guide does list 2VV Adaptive Suspension Professional as standard on the i5 M60. I'm hoping once they add more details about standard features to the US website they will both show up there. Seems hard to believe they would leave these off in the US as they are pretty integral features built into the car's infrastructure and not like a moonroof or universal garage door opener.

[arkhi]

Originally Posted by Sisyrx

This is what I believed as well based on the marketing but don't see any reference to either element (Adaptive or IAS) in the configurator OR the ordering guide for US.

It's code 2VV Adaptive Suspension Professional on the i5 M60 ordering guide.

[Sisyrx]

Originally Posted by arkhi

It's code 2VV Adaptive Suspension Professional on the i5 M60 ordering guide.

Welp, I sure am blind....thanks!

Now where's IAS on the guide?

[bavarianboar]

Originally Posted by Mosaud1998

No 540?

It’s coming starting November, not on confugurator yet

[MikeElmendorf]

Really having a hard time wrapping my head around all this. Coming at this from the perspective of owning a 2021 M550 (best car, of many, I’ve ever owned—by far), a 2022 X5 and previously (as far as BMW goes) a 2018 540, 2019 X5, 2016 X5 and 2013 X3:

1. Sorry, the car is not simply not visually appealing. At all. It looks more like a Honda/Toyota/Kia than a BMW. I get the “maybe it will look better in person” and maybe it will, but I don’t think it can look THAT much better in person. Not sold on the interior either—the cluster, the new iDrive, lack of buttons, etc. I also hate the loss of a physical shifter—I drive with my right hand there usually. I realize that’s the trend, but I don’t have to like it.

2. There are some really key features that have helped make the 5 series for many of us missing—starting with the V8, multi contour seats, etc.

Just not feeling it. My lease is up in October. Wish I had pushed to take the hit to order one of the last M550s and get out of this lease early. I’d have been very happy.

As it stands, I’m seriously considering buying my car outright and keeping it until I decide what I want next. Increasingly, I don’t think it will be the new 5–and before seeing this car and learning more of the details, that was an automatic for me.

I just don’t get what they are thinking. And, if I decided to swallow all that and settle on a 540 (certainly no slouch), based on playing with this configurator it would cost nearly as much as my M550 with less “stuff”? Shaking my head.

[TheMaxXHD]

Maybe the answer is buy an M340i instead. We 3 series owners don’t bite. Come on over to the dark side

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by MikeElmendorf

Really having a hard time wrapping my head around all this. Coming at this from the perspective of owning a 2021 M550 (best car, of many, I’ve ever owned—by far), a 2022 X5 and previously (as far as BMW goes) a 2018 540, 2019 X5, 2016 X5 and 2013 X3:

1. Sorry, the car is not simply not visually appealing. At all. It looks more like a Honda/Toyota/Kia than a BMW. I get the “maybe it will look better in person” and maybe it will, but I don’t think it can look THAT much better in person. Not sold on the interior either—the cluster, the new iDrive, lack of buttons, etc. I also hate the loss of a physical shifter—I drive with my right hand there usually. I realize that’s the trend, but I don’t have to like it.

2. There are some really key features that have helped make the 5 series for many of us missing—starting with the V8, multi contour seats, etc.

Just not feeling it. My lease is up in October. Wish I had pushed to take the hit to order one of the last M550s and get out of this lease early. I’d have been very happy.

As it stands, I’m seriously considering buying my car outright and keeping it until I decide what I want next. Increasingly, I don’t think it will be the new 5–and before seeing this car and learning more of the details, that was an automatic for me.

I just don’t get what they are thinking. And, if I decided to swallow all that and settle on a 540 (certainly no slouch), based on playing with this configurator it would cost nearly as much as my M550 with less “stuff”? Shaking my head.

All good points and no arguments from me. The F90/G30 M5 and M550’s are holding their demand and relative values pretty well. Dealers that want to stock up are having a hard time finding the supply. I don’t think you’d be unwise to buy out your M550. The closest thing to it, now, would be an M850 GC, which is impressive as hell but very big and another price point.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

Maybe the answer is buy an M340i instead. We 3 series owners don’t bite. Come on over to the dark side

M340i xDrive would be really appealing to me, if they’d put some better seats in it.

[BMW012]

Originally Posted by MikeElmendorf

Really having a hard time wrapping my head around all this. Coming at this from the perspective of owning a 2021 M550 (best car, of many, I’ve ever owned—by far), a 2022 X5 and previously (as far as BMW goes) a 2018 540, 2019 X5, 2016 X5 and 2013 X3:

1. Sorry, the car is not simply not visually appealing. At all. It looks more like a Honda/Toyota/Kia than a BMW. I get the “maybe it will look better in person” and maybe it will, but I don’t think it can look THAT much better in person. Not sold on the interior either—the cluster, the new iDrive, lack of buttons, etc. I also hate the loss of a physical shifter—I drive with my right hand there usually. I realize that’s the trend, but I don’t have to like it.

2. There are some really key features that have helped make the 5 series for many of us missing—starting with the V8, multi contour seats, etc.

Just not feeling it. My lease is up in October. Wish I had pushed to take the hit to order one of the last M550s and get out of this lease early. I’d have been very happy.

As it stands, I’m seriously considering buying my car outright and keeping it until I decide what I want next. Increasingly, I don’t think it will be the new 5–and before seeing this car and learning more of the details, that was an automatic for me.

I just don’t get what they are thinking. And, if I decided to swallow all that and settle on a 540 (certainly no slouch), based on playing with this configurator it would cost nearly as much as my M550 with less “stuff”? Shaking my head.

literally just did that today. replaced my 2021 M550i with 11k miles with a new 2023 M550i. Probably end up getting a g60 eventually though.

[DNYC1919]

The wheel options kinda suck. Not really feeling any of them.

[MikeElmendorf]

I have thought about the M340. I really like the exterior of the car. As someone else noted, it’s the seats and other downgrades in the interior that worry me.

I’m also tempted by the X5 M60 or the hybrid X5 (had a 45E last week as a loaner and it was fast and fun to drive; new one is even quicker). But, we already have an X5 (principally my wife’s car) and I like the variety of having an SUV and a sedan.

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by MikeElmendorf

I have thought about the M340. I really like the exterior of the car. As someone else noted, it’s the seats and other downgrades in the interior that worry me.

I completely understand. I went with the M340i because realistically, if I wanted the 5 series, my heart would have been set on the M550i (or whatever the new future equivalent will be), which was/will be just not close to workable price wise for me. M550i seemed like a one heck of vehicle. Even the 540i was just not possible for me.

I thought about waiting for the new 530i, and this does look appealing…but I do love my M340i in sport mode…and I don’t think I’d quite get that level of smiles with the 530i

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

I completely understand. I went with the M340i because realistically, if I wanted the 5 series, my heart would have been set on the M550i (or whatever the new future equivalent will be), which was/will be just not close to workable price wise for me. M550i seemed like a one heck of vehicle. Even the 540i was just not possible for me.

I thought about waiting for the new 530i, and this does look appealing…but I do love my M340i in sport mode…and I don’t think I’d quite get that level of smiles with the 530i

You are right. I’d drive an M340 over a 530 all day. Maybe over getting another 540, but I don’t know. I’d be pretty tempted!

I feel you on the price points, too. I went with a preowned 2020 M550. Would have probably explored a new/almost new M340 but I really wanted the V8 5 series while it is here to have (without being too old) and the G30 is just a great car, all around.

[BMW012]

Originally Posted by MikeElmendorf

I have thought about the M340. I really like the exterior of the car. As someone else noted, it’s the seats and other downgrades in the interior that worry me.

I’m also tempted by the X5 M60 or the hybrid X5 (had a 45E last week as a loaner and it was fast and fun to drive; new one is even quicker). But, we already have an X5 (principally my wife’s car) and I like the variety of having an SUV and a sedan.

dont think the vernasca leather is that bad