[epigram]

I read somewhere that the MY2025 will come equipped with 22kw AC charging as standard.

When does the factory usually switch over to a new model year?

[SkykingUSA]

That was also available on the MY 24 i5 cars, but I think it's only in some markets and it was optional I think.

[epigram]

I see. I had read that it would become standard for MY2025.

[btlalum]

It may be "standard" in some parts of the world, but in the US the limit is 19.2 kW, i.e. 80A @ 240V as homes generally are wired with single-phase split systems, not three-phase as is can be the case in Europe and possibly elsewhere (e.g., Singapore?). To use 80A in the US would require at least 4 gauge Cu wire and a 100A breaker, as well as electrical service to the home that would support that level. We have 400A service to our home, but the power source for the car is wired with 6 gauge Cu wire and a 60A breaker, the maximum for 48A charging, so I couldn't use it as-wired in any event.

When I ordered there was no option given for 19.2 kW as there apparently is in RoW. I've no idea if BMWNA even allows such a charger to be fitted to our vehicles, and I believe the J1772 connector has a maximum current rating of 19.2 kW @ 80A. It would be interesting to know.

And as others have pointed out, charging at the maximum rate (48A) isn't necessarily the best way to promote battery longevity. That said, there have been a few times when I would've been glad to have had the capability!

[lilstevie]

Originally Posted by SkykingUSA

That was also available on the MY 24 i5 cars, but I think it's only in some markets and it was optional I think.

Was standard in Australia

[epigram]

All the different standard trims in different countries make it really confusing for consumers.

[Scrapula]

Originally Posted by btlalum

It may be "standard" in some parts of the world, but in the US the limit is 19.2 kW, i.e. 80A @ 240V as homes generally are wired with single-phase split systems, not three-phase as is can be the case in Europe and possibly elsewhere (e.g., Singapore?). To use 80A in the US would require at least 4 gauge Cu wire and a 100A breaker, as well as electrical service to the home that would support that level. We have 400A service to our home, but the power source for the car is wired with 6 gauge Cu wire and a 60A breaker, the maximum for 48A charging, so I couldn't use it as-wired in any event.

When I ordered there was no option given for 19.2 kW as there apparently is in RoW. I've no idea if BMWNA even allows such a charger to be fitted to our vehicles, and I believe the J1772 connector has a maximum current rating of 19.2 kW @ 80A. It would be interesting to know.

And as others have pointed out, charging at the maximum rate (48A) isn't necessarily the best way to promote battery longevity. That said, there have been a few times when I would've been glad to have had the capability!

We have a Ford Charge Station Pro at home in the US. It came free with our Lightning. It is level 2 charging up to 80 amps. I cost about $1,200 to get it wired into our panel. The Lightning charges at 19.2 kW. So, you are probably correct with the maximum current rating.

[patch5674]

In the UK it is an option on MSport cars but then comes standard on Sport cars (A lower trim level) which is very strange.

Doesn't really matter as household chargers are typically 7KW AC here, incredibly rare for a house to have a 3 phase supply to have 22KW AC.

I can only imagine they have put it on the sport as standard as it might be where they sell to fleet and company cars so people who are on the road for business every day, need as many varied charging options as possible rather than all the options and extras that come with MSport.

[epigram]

In Singapore, it's 11kW AC charging standard for both Sport and M Sport eDrive40 versions. There's no option for 22kW for them while it is standard for the M60. That's based on the latest spec sheet available dated Dec 2023.

I was hoping that 22kW would become standard in MY2025 as I read something because a lot of public chargers near me are 22kW AC.

[nf0rc3r]

Originally Posted by epigram

In Singapore, it's 11kW AC charging standard for both Sport and M Sport eDrive40 versions. There's no option for 22kW for them while it is standard for the M60. That's based on the latest spec sheet available dated Dec 2023.

I was hoping that 22kW would become standard in MY2025 as I read something because a lot of public chargers near me are 22kW AC.

My recent i5 edrive40 in Singapore has 22kw AC. July build date so I would assume 2025 model has started.