[gblansten]

Originally Posted by kyriian

Omg it’s a miracle an EV didn’t spontaneously combust! Victory for all EVs

Seriously… all cars can potentially explode, this is not a win for EV nor for ICE. In this case, it’s just a ship that exploded carrying cars.

Don’t know where the celebration projection fantasy came from. I’m just mildly amused.

[chad86tsi]

Still want an EV to save the world from certain doom? Consider this:

In a recent Senate hearing, Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) managed to extract from the deputy energy secretary three critical admissions concerning emissions.

One, the United States is currently responsible for only 13% of global carbon emissions, and we cannot control what China, India, or other countries do;

two, it will cost an estimated $50 trillion to decarbonize the U.S. by 2050;

three, the feds do not know how many degrees of warming such spending might mitigate, unsurprising given the small fraction of emissions U.S. actions can affect.


We could stop right there because even a scintilla of common sense should cause anyone to be aghast at the enormous costs with only limited and uncertain benefits of our attempts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...c6973298&ei=59

Still want an EV because you like them for how they drive or fit into your life and use-case? Enjoy, I'm happy for you.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by chad86tsi

Still want an EV to save the world from certain doom? Consider this:

In a recent Senate hearing, Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) managed to extract from the deputy energy secretary three critical admissions concerning emissions.

One, the United States is currently responsible for only 13% of global carbon emissions, and we cannot control what China, India, or other countries do;

two, it will cost an estimated $50 trillion to decarbonize the U.S. by 2050;

three, the feds do not know how many degrees of warming such spending might mitigate, unsurprising given the small fraction of emissions U.S. actions can affect.


We could stop right there because even a scintilla of common sense should cause anyone to be aghast at the enormous costs with only limited and uncertain benefits of our attempts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...c6973298&ei=59

Still want an EV because you like them for how they drive or fit into your life and use-case? Enjoy, I'm happy for you.

Thanks for being happy for me.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Thanks for being happy for me.

Woo, same. I love having all these peasants sacrificing their future and hard earned tax dollars so that I can wake up every day to a full charge

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

EV folks are now celebrating when their cars DON'T spontaneously combust. It's a wierd, wierd world.

''Phew we're lucky wifey, our EV hasn't combusted today and I'm thinking of putting it in the garage after all to charge overnight, it's next to the kids bedroom which is just above, the gubments say they're safe' What can go wrong

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

''Phew we're lucky wifey, our EV hasn't combusted today and I'm thinking of putting it in the garage after all to charge overnight, it's next to the kids bedroom which is just above, the gubments say they're safe' What can go wrong

I mentioned this in the other thread. One of my past jobs, I worked for a company that did environmental research type work. One of the projects I supported was on BEVs. The company had purchased two single family detached homes in a residential neighborhood that had garages. The project was to see if and how long it would take for hydrogen emissions to get to concentrations that would reach LEL (lower explosive levels) while charging in a closed garage. Little did I realize back then that fires are what is the bigger concern now.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Not one sentence in that article indicates the ship fire was not caused by an EV.

It indicates there is doubt as to the source of the fire. And that the initial report was also not reliable. We will have to see.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

It indicates there is doubt as to the source of the fire. And that the initial report was also not reliable. We will have to see.

Shocked! Shocked! that the headline would be so misleading from such a unbiased source.
TheDriven: is Australia's leading website for news, analysis and information about electric vehicles, and the transition to zero emissions transport.

The checks in the mail, EV's are great for the environment and I promise I won't *** in your mouth.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Shocked! Shocked! that the headline would be so misleading from such a unbiased source.
TheDriven: is Australia's leading website for news, analysis and information about electric vehicles, and the transition to zero emissions transport.

The checks in the mail, EV's are great for the environment and I promise I won't *** in your mouth.

you’re definitely the resident expert on posting biased sources, if you say it’s biased I believe you

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Not one sentence in that article indicates the ship fire was not caused by an EV.

Thanks to you Efthreeoh for going through it with a fine tooth comb

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

It did not say the initial report was unreliable. The entire article tries to cast doubt using weasel wording, paragraph and sentence structure.


"A large fire on a ship carrying 3,784 new cars from off the coast of the Netherlands"

Article implying EVs are cause of ship fire simply because they were on board - A-ok

Article quoting experts claiming there is no evidence that the EVs are the cause of the fire - weasel words

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Jag EV suv exploding more than once while burning putting firemens safety at risk.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sca_...id:g4vcGnxD7hQ

The best job so far : => https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-Mz6lgAaIe4

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

There is no quote from the salvage company boss stating an EV was not the source of the fire. What are the boss of the salvage company credentials and expertise regarding ship fires and causes of ship fires? None stated nor validated. The author did not quote the boss of the salvage company. Zero evidence was presented in the article.

You fell for the weasel wording as was intended by the author and pro-EV website.

I never said they quoted the salvage company boss. Lol. But nice deflection of the fact that you are so easily fooled by anti-ev propaganda

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The best job so far : => https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-Mz6lgAaIe4

Is that what they mean when they say it's been towed outside the environment?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by freakystyly

Is that what they mean when they say it's been towed outside the environment?

Yeah but ,no one wants poisoned fish in a river caused by burning toxic batteries .

#ToxicFireStarter !

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah but ,no one wants poisoned fish in a river caused by burning toxic batteries.

No that's some major bad karma. Buy a EV to save the planet, have it burn to the ground and get ticketed for environmental clean-up.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

No that's some major bad karma. Buy a EV to "destroy the planet", have it burn to the ground and get ticketed for environmental clean-up.

FTFY

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The best job so far : => https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-Mz6lgAaIe4

Grab and dump the piece of rubbish thought up by the greenies

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

But you do think the article quotes experts claiming there is no evidence the EVs were the cause of the fire aboard Fremantle. The author of the article provides no such quotes from any expert related to the fire aboard Fremantle. As shown in my earlier post, the author attempts to include the boss of the salvage company as part of the cadre of experts referenced in the article, who she says said the cause of the fire was unlikely to be the EVs. The boss of the salvage company who is inferred to be an expert on the subject of the Fremantle fire is not quoted about EV being the cause of the fire. So no experts are quoted in the article regarding the Fremantle fire.

So as I stated, you bought the weasel wording used by the author of the article to convince you experts were quoted about the source of the fire on the ship.

That’s a lot of incorrect inferences. Now how about you try to explain why you are ok with articles implying that EVs are the cause without any evidence? Why do you keep deflecting lol. Because you know you’re caught red handed?

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by whaledeep

I think the number of charging piles popularized in North America can make others buy trams, but despite this, gasoline cars also have irreplaceable advantages.

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

^ AI chatbot gone awry ^

Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting scwewy SPAMBOTS!!!!!




.

[Car-Addicted]

A honest and engaged Automotive CEO.
Ford's CEO admits to a 'reality check' during F-150 Lightning Route 66 road trip
Ford CEO Jim Farley experienced a common complaint from electric vehicle owners during his cross-country road trip in the automobile maker's electric pickup truck, calling it a "reality check."
Tesla's electric-vehicle charging technology is faster than Ford's causing the car company to partner with the Elon Musk-owned company to make their Supercharger network available to all Ford drivers.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...e-66-road-trip

Elon Musk may have a even better business model with his Supercharger network than Tesla.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

A honest and engaged Automotive CEO.
Ford's CEO admits to a 'reality check' during F-150 Lightning Route 66 road trip

Elon Musk may have a even better business model with his Supercharger network than Tesla.

Yes, I’ve been saying for a while now that I would not be surprised if Tesla stops focusing on building cars and focuses more on charging. That is what sets them apart imo