05-25-2023, 09:10 PM | #1 |
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G60 Panorama Glass Roof
I don’t get the trend of having glass roof without possibility to tilt and open. Whole point of sunroof is to open it, to have fresh air or to hear outer sounds. Fixed glass roof has no point at all. Cabin gets heat much more too.
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According to Autogefuhl, the US market will get the option for a "normal" glass sun roof that will tilt and open.
See video here at the 8 min, 15 sec mark: |
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Heat comes from IR (infrared) in the solar spectrum. Pano glass should likely have ~100% UV protection, tint would avoid some IR.
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That’s not just like that. It reduces in comparison with clear glass. But heats much more than metal roof with insolation. And for God’s sake why glass without opening.
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My AMG GT has a pano roof that does not open.....I do wish it did but it's not a huge deal.
The 8 series GC has one that opens and it opens like 6 inches.....it's almost not even worth it.
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It’s not a must have option (at least for me).
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1. One can already obtain plenty of air and/or can hear plenty of outside sounds from opening any number of windows; 2. Aesthetics/Headroom. Whether it be from the physical angle of a tilted OPR breaking a roof line, or (as in the old days like from my 80s Mazda) a mechanical circular crank -- even though BMW might have optimally engineered their OPR -- many still associate OPRs with extra roof encumbrances, lack of roof "flow," and diminished headroom. A fixed NOPR suffers from virtually none of this; 3. OPRs can leak -- admitting water into your vehicle -- through any initial or gradual misalignment, damage, and/or normal wear and tear over the years. Fixed NOPRs have comparatively no opportunity for this; and of course 4. Many of us simply enjoy the extra glow inside the cabin (and don't care for the accompanying wind or its annoying whistling or whooshing air sounds (and happily, i5s optional "Sky Lounge Roof" is roughly 150% the size of the OEM "Moonroof"). I hope this helps broaden your understanding. :-) |
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2. You don’t care about air flow when You want fresh air feeling. 3. Everything can leak. Todays moonroofs are very well constructed. 4. I agree that many od You enjoy glowing, that’s fine but many of us don’t. I just want roof window and I don’t want to drive greenhouse. Why don’t they make both options for us such different people?! |
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It IS a bit ironic: Here in the USA, we have the option of both the opening and the fixed pano roofs, but only the fixed is available in Europe. HA - Maybe you and I should just switch countries.
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We had soft close doors on our X5 years ago but I skipped adding on my 540i. Not missing it. Genuinely curious why this is important? Our kids are grown so they don’t slam doors anymore. Maybe that’s part of it? I love a sunroof but my wife never uses hers so I get it could be something like this.
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I've had the panoramic roof in 3 Teslas, our Polestar, and our Mach-e. None have shades. The Teslas and Polestar get ridiculously hot inside... even the glass is hot to the touch. The Mach-e must have better UV protection because it gets warm, not hot. Either way, I'm skipping it this time around. It offers no real advantage to the driver. Even my kids in the back could care less about the glass roof. It's something everyone is chasing Tesla on but the real reason Tesla includes it in the 3/Y is because it allows more rear head room in the rear.
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