[Justao]

So the previous gen f90 gas engine produces more power lol… s68 in reality is the same engine as s63… it’s ridiculous that they’re muting this engine… seems like they do it on purpose, they increase 70-90hp with new gen everytime while they can easily do 150+

[DHDCF]

Looks like there could be room for shifter still? I was told they were keeping it but who knows. I thought I'd hate not having it but I don't miss it and not just saying that because I don't have it. After 40 years of driving with one I really thought I'd miss it - not the case. Would I prefer one? Yes.

I'm glad they're using the flat bottom wheel, too. It's nice.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by f30jomi

unsure how i feel about the panoramic interior screen. seems like they’re behind benz’ in this sense

interestingly it's pretty stunning when you're sitting behind the wheel but you'll never catch me using it.

not buying another BMW

[Tragiclil]

Originally Posted by Zulu Saffa

As the world slowly goes to sh1t around us, I was always able to look to BMW for a pleasant distraction, for some happiness, enjoyment, and to scratch an itch by flogging my car.

Safe to say that there is hardly a car in the current lineup that evokes child like excitement from both a design and enjoyment perspective. Hell, I thought maybe I was just getting tool old for current models and did not understand the design ethos, but even my kids are shaking their heads at this nonsense.

Guess I will be holding on to my car for quite a while longer and pull the trigger on a P car when I cannot take holding out for an M car that is true to M philosophies.

Gutted.

That’s why I’ll always continue to hold to my E93 M3 weekend car. It’s so cliche saying “they don’t make them like they used to” but this is true…

[RyanBMW]

Some monster tires, holy shit, 285-40-20 fronts..whattt

[chicagofan00]

Thought I’d miss the traditional shifter when I purchased my X5 M60i but haven’t missed a single bit…

That said, I’m still surprised to see they are dropping it on a full M model. Thought they were going to keep it in play for the full Ms… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Reckamech]

They are saving the shifter for the competition model. 🤣

[440i6MT]

I await the arrival of the BMW-can-do-no-wrong circle-jerkers.
They shall eventually migrate here from the G8x forums.

[f30jomi]

Originally Posted by g21

interestingly it's pretty stunning when you're sitting behind the wheel but you'll never catch me using it.

not buying another BMW

yeah i’m sure it’d be nice, here I am complaining like i can afford to have that problem ahaha. not a fan of the newer bmw’s?

[f30jomi]

Originally Posted by ASAP

what is panoramic vision

it’s essentially the long dash cluster, so the cluster unit goes from the cockpit all the way to the central head unit

[f30jomi]

out of curiosity, how do these go into gear then? is jt like volkswagen with that ugly little paddle in all the new golf’s? or is it like the benz column shifter

[Technic]

Originally Posted by ASAP

what is panoramic vision

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by 440i6MT

I await the arrival of the BMW-can-do-no-wrong circle-jerkers.
They shall eventually migrate here from the G8x forums.

Eh, for me it’s kinda hilarious how bent out of shape people get over vehicles in the six figures. I love my vehicle, it’s a blessing I was able to afford it and it drives like a dream. I’d only dream to even be able to drive this M5 that people are now apparently complaining about.

Seriously, just lol. Y’all haven’t even driven this vehicle or even know everything about it yet and suddenly it’s a dumb vehicle and it will suck? I don’t get it…

[Scrapula]

Originally Posted by ASAP

what is panoramic vision

That is a heads up display that spans across the entire windshield. This allows the passenger to see it as well. I’m not sure what they are planning on displaying though.

[M_Torx]

also really dislike the drive switch felt very complicated getting it was like how the F do you put into drive 😂 am sure u get used to it but felt super cheap compared to normal bmw they probably did it to save money or maybe just think it's better when it's not at all

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by f30jomi

out of curiosity, how do these go into gear then? is jt like volkswagen with that ugly little paddle in all the new golf’s? or is it like the benz column shifter

Look at the current 5 and you’ll see the little crystal paddle in the center console. It works great in our X7.

[ledphut]

I’m currently in a ‘24 760i loaner. Daily is a ‘22 XB7 with the giant crystal shifter. While it did take me a few days to get used to the shift switch, it’s not a terrible design overall.

Pulling the switch “back” while in drive engages the “sport” trans programming. I think once people spend a few weeks with it they will change their negative opinions.

[XM Label]

Love how so many people are complaining about a missing stick shifter….its called evolution. Back in the day when we only had manual shifters the stick made sense. A stick shifter for an automatic transmission is just a way to put it into gear and to appease those who want to go back to the good old manual days. I personally like the lack of stick shifter and think they are moving in the right direction. For those who feel that losing a stick for an automatic transmission car makes a any car less sporty, please refer to Ferrari, McLaren, or lamborghinis not as sports cars because they all lack a stick…

[ChrisM4]

I’m really disappointed that BMW is making such heavy and complicated monsters for cars.

2.435 tons (5357 pounds) for a 5 series is just mind boggling. It’s only ~40pounds lighter than my 2022 X7!

For a company supposedly concerned about performance and the environment it’s insane how much weight and materials they are jamming into their vehicles. Not to mention tire wear, wear on roads, impacts from accidents etc.

I’m sure it’ll be fast but there’s no hiding that weight and complexity.

[f30jomi]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Look at the current 5 and you’ll see the little crystal paddle in the center console. It works great in our X7.

oh is it the same as the x7?’s i don’t mind the shifter in those to be honest

[XM Label]

Also, for the record, everyone who is worried about performance for this using the hybrid powertrain from the XM label, You have nothing to worry about. This will be a proper sports sedan. Unless you have driven a car with this new powertrain, please wait for the actual reviews. I can tell you first hand, my XM label does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and handles otherworldly for a 6000+ pound vehicle.

[tsbrown]

That’s a no from me, dawg. And I drove a’22 F90 M5 today and that was a strong yes.