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      08-04-2023, 07:34 AM   #23
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This design would be one of the worst M5s of all time. Hideous design aside, the deciding factor will be the engine. If they go the route of a plug-in hybrid, that'll kill the deal for me.
All things point to a PHEV

It will be the fastest most capable M5 ever

Might wait to drive it before you dismiss the car entirely
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Hmmm interesting, could still go both ways at the moment I feel.

Has potential to be good but also disastrous!
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      08-04-2023, 07:39 AM   #25
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That’s badass!! Definitely inline with BMW’s new aggressive styling.
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I miss the angel eyes already. Those LED ‘slits’ just don’t have the same effect anymore.
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All things point to a PHEV

It will be the fastest most capable M5 ever

Might wait to drive it before you dismiss the car entirely
I don't like the fact that an M car carries around so much weight. Straight-line acceleration is well and good but I am hoping for an all capable real sports sedan for one last time before everything gets fitted with a ton of batteries.
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The price also will be 🔥
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Not great but definitely better looking than the M3/M2
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All things point to a PHEV

It will be the fastest most capable M5 ever

Might wait to drive it before you dismiss the car entirely
Drivetrain will be the same as the XM but possibly tuned a little differently. I’ve driven the XM and scratched the M5T from further consideration because it was such a poorly integrated system. Yeah, they will probably improve that for the M5 but a 5000lb M car still is subject to the reality of physics and I’d rather spend 150k differently.
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I'm thinking, could BMW go the same route as Porsche with a non phev m5 and m5 (s/comp call it whatever) phev. This way the customers are free to choose whatever fits their needs.
Can definately see the benefits of a proper phev for the customer who also would like the better mpg and power.
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Drivetrain will be the same as the XM but possibly tuned a little differently. I’ve driven the XM and scratched the M5T from further consideration because it was such a poorly integrated system. Yeah, they will probably improve that for the M5 but a 5000lb M car still is subject to the reality of physics and I’d rather spend 150k differently.
yup , please NO HYBRID version because as seen with the hybrid engines on the likes like XM , the new C63S ,etc the drive-train is still a big mess and all reviewers which tested these cars until now all said the performances felt very underwhelming for their official power figures... and not because of only the added weight.

1000% an M3/M2 with its pure ICE 500 hp 3.0L engine will still definitely be a better buy in terms of drivetrain and fun side of the car feel over this new hybrid M5.

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Drivetrain will be the same as the XM but possibly tuned a little differently. I’ve driven the XM and scratched the M5T from further consideration because it was such a poorly integrated system. Yeah, they will probably improve that for the M5 but a 5000lb M car still is subject to the reality of physics and I’d rather spend 150k differently.
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I haven’t driven the XM yet, but this Saturday I will be driving it extensively so I will have a good idea what to expect from the incoming ///M5
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First M5 that would come with significantly arched rear fenders, and rear air slots.

If that's the case, it could grow. M5 has been long overdue for some tasteful aggressive styling.
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The higher the better

They could’ve made the whole grill plastic and hid it behind it but they have to make that sensor work and cooling is needed via the grill so two necessary evils I guess combined into one

But I don’t care for the shape of the kidney (butterfly) grill, and I certainly wouldn’t want it to light up

And I hate to say it, but just like the M2, this car probably needs to be ordered in black or a darker colour to make everything come together
Great points. I feel like the last beautiful M generation happened with the F series 2015 M3 and 2018 M5.

Tech is ofcourse welcome but these designs aren’t classic.

Point to the 992 Gen Porsche 911 of moving forward while retaining the classic elements.
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The higher the better

They could’ve made the whole grill plastic and hid it behind it but they have to make that sensor work and cooling is needed via the grill so two necessary evils I guess combined into one

But I don’t care for the shape of the kidney (butterfly) grill, and I certainly wouldn’t want it to light up

And I hate to say it, but just like the M2, this car probably needs to be ordered in black or a darker colour to make everything come together
Also- and I hate to bring up Tesla… but radar isn’t the future. Cameras really are. As self driving advances- Sonar and radar are less effective than computers and cameras. I think BMW engineering clearly will disagree.
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That front grill is disgusting
I don’t disagree, but separating the kidneys from the lower grille is a big improvement. The regular 5 sets the bar pretty low, so any deviation from there has a good chance of being better.
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      08-04-2023, 11:12 AM   #43
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i like it minus the hybrid part
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