[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Hyundai is switching lanes from EVs in a quest for another 'clean' fuel
The South Korean automaker announced at a keynote during the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) on Jan. 8 that it is setting forth on a strategy centered around hydrogen fuel that involves the production of hydrogen fuel, storage, transportation and its use throughout its affiliated businesses, including steel making.
Hyundai said that will play a crucial role in its "sustainability roadmap," specifically its RE100 target to use only renewable energy in its overseas factories by 2045, and in every part of the company by 2050.
First, Hyundai is developing methods to transform problem pollutants into hydrogen by using one of two methods in what it calls "reverse circulation technology." Here, the automaker harvests hydrogen molecules from either organic waste — food, sludge or livestock manure, or by breaking down waste plastics.
Additionally, the automaker is developing what it calls megawatt-scale polymer electrolyte membrane, or PEM electrolyzers for hydrogen production. Electrolyzers are key to hydrogen production, as they enable water molecules to be separated down to hydrogen and oxygen in the making of hydrogen fuel.
Last, Hyundai is centering the use of hydrogen throughout critical parts of its logistical chain where it can be used. The company has already begun deploying its hydrogen-powered XCIENT fuel cell trucks at the Port of Oakland and plans to use them at its new EV factory near Savannah, Ga.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/tech...9d5e72987&ei=6

So if there is a honest better solution to saving the planet will the EV folks care? Hydrogen will define if this is a cult or a true concern for the planet.

It is totally make sense. The end products are energy and water.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

3-2-1-STOP if he couldn't find a charger

Joke of the month. Funny and very true.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

3-2-1 FIRE if he does. Sorry never could resist low hanging fruit.

Can I extend your sentence to 3-2-1 FIRE IN THE HOLE

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

A new Belgian phenomenon is going on ...

This morning (04:30-AM) I drove to the company , the radio newsflash said +6K calls from EV owners ...
It was cold like -8C° , but it felt like -15 with a ice cold wind !
The problem for the EV owners was : The plug/adapter was frozen to the car and they couldn't remove the thing from the car ...

A guy said: It's like being handcuffed !

I can see this happen in the next few days where I live.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I can see this happen in the next few days where I live.

-25C wow that's Siberian temps.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

-25C wow that's Siberian temps.

Or, Canadian winter.

[Leucosticte]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Said it countless times myself, teens now should wise up and make their voices heard about this bad for the long term future deal for them, their children and beyond to come.

As someone who is probably one of the younger people in this thread (I'm 23), what do you expect them to do?

[gonzo]

^
Waking up to the propaganda being fed to them, with chopsticks by the likes of TikTok, is a nice starting point.

Signed:
Mr. CoNsPirAcy ThEoRisT

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

As someone who is probably one of the younger people in this thread (I'm 23), what do you expect them to do?

Good question...
bad decisions make us experienced and good decisions then comes from experience..
forget fears and make mistakes but learn from them and never make them twice.

[Prossx]

Aufwiedersehen Munchen.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...27-2024-01-10/

[Leucosticte]

Originally Posted by gonzo

^
Waking up to the propaganda being fed to them, with chopsticks by the likes of TikTok, is a nice starting point.

Signed:
Mr. CoNsPirAcy ThEoRisT

From what I've seen, social media like Tiktok/Instagram or whatever else is way too ingrained in their daily lives for them to give it up. If you DON'T have these then you're looked at as an outcast, I know from firsthand experience .

[gonzo]

^
I never said commies are dumb. Quite the opposite. They know the user's are.
Maybe not dumb. Weak.

Weakness is a cancer in most societies right now and it was carefully implemented.
Weak citizens make for great citizens.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I can see this happen in the next few days where I live.

Wow you could really do with some of that Global Warming stuff.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Prossx

Aufwiedersehen Munchen.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...27-2024-01-10/

Considering the political, environmental and labor issues in Germany BMW is showing a complete lack of understanding of the cause and effect.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Considering the political, environmental and labor issues in Germany BMW is showing a complete lack of understanding of the cause and effect.

I don’t see BMW surviving this transition.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Leucosticte

As someone who is probably one of the younger people in this thread (I'm 23), what do you expect them to do?

Vote with their feet, move away from the 'net zero' con.

[crAbb]

I'm a 'petrol head'. What's the equivalent coloqialism for an EV enthusiast?

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

-25C wow that's Siberian temps.

This will put the EV to hibernation for sure.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Or, Canadian winter.

Exactly. Who want to drive EV in this kind of climate? Definitely not me. Even my G82 take 30 mins normal driving to reach the normal oil temperature.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I don’t see BMW surviving this transition.

They wouldn't. Virtue signaling.
An otter can read their ev sales figures. Putting out some ugly af vehicles that are joke butts doesn't seem to have fazed whomever is shot calling either.

Woke and broke.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

-25C wow that's Siberian temps.

This is nothing compare to my friend who live in the province next to me. Does EV make sense for Canadian winter?

[freakystyly]

It's kind of old knowledge that the nordic countries are the top buyers of EVs (Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, etc.). I'm sure there aren't human popsicles on the roadside... there also aren't a lot of nordic people on these forums to chime in. I'm sure they do fine in cold temperatures for whatever their use case may be.