[NikMN]

Any chance seeing your car? No ok.

[Murf the Surf]

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

I’m so mad at this joke that if I ever see you, I will hit you with my purse.

[NikMN]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

🤣

[Tejas1836]

LOL

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Don’t worry we’ll all be pregnant come 2035

[NikMN]

Speak for yourself my boy z06 m3comp model3

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

You can’t really compare but at the same time we can compare. Ev is right there knocking on ICE door.

Is it perfect? No. Who said that? But it’s been working for millions and it only improves from here.

Remember the so called gas ban is about 11 years away. Look at the improvements to ev in only the past 5 years. Accelerate that times 2, and I think at 2035 you’ll see half of the cars on the road ev. And since the average ice car is about 12 years old, by 2050 probably no ice cars left on the road. At least not legally.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

I don’t travel, but I have been to a charging station when I needed something quick and can’t wait for my 6-7 mile per hour charge at level 1 at my house. I was out in 25 minutes. Didn’t even feel long. 12 stalls and there were 3 of us, including me. Can’t get much simple than that.

I never said it translate into being a dumbass, you’re creating words to distract the topic at hand, and forcing the discussion to turn into name calling and taking an approach at the discussion not related to ev. But I guess it was too late for that tens and tens of pages ago in this thread.

Say you for example. You don’t have charging at home. You don’t even have a parking spot and you go you know what, I’ll get a Tesla anyway. Because I want to see what it’s like to daily an ev.

So you get the car and your first week is fine, you drove it to work and back, and it did its job. Now it’s time for charging. The nearest station to you is 2 miles. You check your app and it says 3/8 stalls are available. So you go there. By the time you get there none are available. Now you’re pissed. And you regret getting an ev and now you’re panicking on where to go to charge because you have 15% left.

Whose fault is that? Can it be your fault? No in the sense that you can’t stop others from showing up while you were driving there.

But at the same time it is your fault. Bad planning on waiting that long to charge. Bad planning on getting an ev to begin with because you didn’t think about your options, your route, your schedule etc and most importantly, you knew you had to deal with that knowing you had zero charging available at home but yet you still went ahead and got yourself an ev.

Nicer is subjective. I thought about getting a mache after getting rid of my explorer. But the build quality is terrible on ford just as you guys think tesla has bad quality.

I went ahead and got the model 3. Because it shits on everything the Mach e has to offer. And no way I wanted to be seen in something that looks like an Aztek mixed with a mustang.

You paint a perfect picture of why EV doesn't work for a majority of the market and why EV sales are slowing. There is entirely too much planning involved in keeping an EV fueled, especially on a road trip.

The poor charging infrastructure (even Tesla's in a lot of areas of the US) is the fault of the EV because the vehicle is so dependent on the critical availability of its fuel. It is critical because it takes a very long time to charge and its range is limited. It's critical because ICEV exist and set the standard for fast recharge rates (to 100%) and ubiquitous availability of refueling stations, along with significantly more range per fuel load. All tied up with a nice affordable bow.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Mass ev has started since when?

We’ve been fueling cars since when?

You can’t really compare but at the same time we can compare. Ev is right there knocking on ICE door.

Is it perfect? No. Who said that? But it’s been working for millions and it only improves from here.

Remember the so called gas ban is about 11 years away. Look at the improvements to ev in only the past 5 years. Accelerate that times 2, and I think at 2035 you’ll see half of the cars on the road ev. And since the average ice car is about 12 years old, by 2050 probably no ice cars left on the road. At least not legally.

It's all but over for the EV dream, but to be fair they'll still be sold in conjunction with gas cars after '35 and Greta T will be just a memory.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

You paint a perfect picture of why EV doesn't work for a majority of the market and why EV sales are slowing. There is entirely too much planning involved in keeping an EV fueled, especially on a road trip.

The poor charging infrastructure (even Tesla's in a lot of areas of the US) is the fault of the EV because the vehicle is so dependent on the critical availability of its fuel. It is critical because it takes a very long time to charge and its range is limited. It's critical because ICEV exist and set the standard for fast recharge rates (to 100%) and ubiquitous availability of refueling stations, along with significantly more range per fuel load. All tied up with a nice affordable bow.

You’re watching the first 2 minutes of a bob Ross painting episode.

I’m talking about when his show is done and how awesome his painting looks. Watching it when he first starts you’re like wtf is that shit? When the episode is over you’re like damn that looks amazing.

This is what you’re gonna say, or will be forced to say come 2035 and later

Just embrace it bud

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

You’re watching the first 2 minutes of a bob Ross painting episode.

I’m talking about when his show is done and how awesome his painting looks. Watching it when he first starts you’re like wtf is that shit? When the episode is over you’re like damn that looks amazing.

This is what you’re gonna say, or will be forced to say come 2035 and later

Just embrace it bud

From Wikipedia...

"In contrast to more traditionally famous artists, Ross's work, described by an art appraisal service as a cross between "fine art" and "entertainment memorabilia" — is most highly sought after by common fans of The Joy of Painting, as opposed to wealthy collectors."

It's the PBS types who dreamed up and continue to perpetuate the whole globalwarmingclimatechange crisis, which spawned the EV "revolution" in the first place.

[BGM-M3COMP]

No one said it was a collectible, I’m talking about judging way to early

You’ll see soon enough

[Murf the Surf]

Judging by the changes to his avatar it's pretty clear it's just trolling.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

No one said it was a collectible, I’m talking about judging way to early

You’ll see soon enough

You missed my point about the Wiki quote. In the end, which is some time when you and other EV'ers believe EV will reach equally with ice for cost, carging convenience and range, all people will like EV. EV will always be compromise compared to ICEV. Like Ross' paintings, the only people that will really like EV are the ones who watched his show.

I like EV from the perspective of the excellent energy conservation, but I just don't see the point of them in a world where ICEV make the better overall choice. I'm not the only one who sees it. Politicians see it, which is why the legislation and executive orders have been enacted to get rid of the internal combustion engine.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Again, you’re using my bob ross example and turning it into something so far fetched.

You’re judging ev now the same way someone would when watching his show when it first started and wondering ok what the fuck is he doing with that there, or that coloring on that side?

When it’s over you’re like holy fuck ok that’s amazing. Is it perfect? Fuck no.

It’s easy to judge from the sidelines in real time. You can’t.

That’s like saying your iPhone 15 is the best iphone ever made. It might be, until the 16 comes out.

That’s how innovation works. That’s how evolution works. People didn’t think fuel injection would work out, old school carb guys were like what the fuck is that. Direct injection came out and people said the same thing. That shit sucks.

Ev same thing. People are like what the fuck is that but will soon learn to adapt, and accept.

You’ll see.

[gonzo]

Chevron buys Hess for 53B.


Who is forecasting the future more accurately?

A. Chevron
B. LMMMAAAAOOOOO
C. A pinecone

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Again, you’re using my bob ross example and turning it into something so far fetched.

You’re judging ev now the same way someone would when watching his show when it first started and wondering ok what the fuck is he doing with that there, or that coloring on that side?

When it’s over you’re like holy fuck ok that’s amazing. Is it perfect? Fuck no.

It’s easy to judge from the sidelines in real time. You can’t.

That’s like saying your iPhone 15 is the best iphone ever made. It might be, until the 16 comes out.

That’s how innovation works. That’s how evolution works. People didn’t think fuel injection would work out, old school carb guys were like what the fuck is that. Direct injection came out and people said the same thing. That shit sucks.

Ev same thing. People are like what the fuck is that but will soon learn to adapt, and accept.

You’ll see.

It's not 'adapting' or not, EV's success going beyond its current success is highly if not outright dependent on other factors outside of EV themselves. Many of these limitations (charging speed and infrastructures for example) have already been rehashed to death in the past 200 pages or so there is no need to rehash it again.

Every EV person here that have defended their cars do so from THEIR perspective and use case and that's fine, it works for a lot of people and there is nothing wrong with that. Your use case is perfect example, it works FOR YOU and therefore, you buy it because it works FOR YOU.

Tech will come, we can agree to that at least I can. The question is NOT whether the tech comes or not, that part of it is inevitable.

The question is WHEN and will it come to even justify the 2035 or whatever date that the Western governments in general seem so driven to.

Finally, what's wrong with just let the market drive its own demand, instead of some overbearing gov't telling people what to buy based on a completely ludricous idea that EV is some savior to global warming to manipulate the market.

Originally Posted by gonzo

Chevron buys Hess for 53B.


Who is forecasting the future more accurately?

A. Chevron
B. LMMMAAAAOOOOO
C. A pinecone

My money is on the pinecone at this point

[chad86tsi]

Imagine a world where all art at the stores, and all artists creations going forward gets shifted to be in the Bob Ross style, by federal mandate.

[Car-Addicted]

Rob Ross loves ICE Pick up trucks.



ICE ICE BABY

[BGM-M3COMP]

Bob Ross ftw!!!

Even bob Ross approves 2035!!!! Yay!!!!!