[E66er]

Originally Posted by ///M2_MA

Guess the days of the E39 are over 🙈

Which was designed by a Japanese.

[AP]

We’re a tough crowd to please!

[Game]

Originally Posted by tsbrown

Uhhh, no. Don’t want either the X5 (had 2) or 7er (had E38). All great in their own right but not what I want and I’m certain there are plenty like me in the US and around the world. You’re entitled to your opinion but it doesn’t mean that’s what others want. I have a G30 540i and will replace it with either a G60 540i, M560e or M5 touring. Notice 2 of 3 are hybrids if they materialize for US customers so I’m not hung up on ICE, but I do want my sedan. The boss loves her X3 so I don’t need one.

I do run the new car inventory at a BMW store so I do have some pretty good insight on the topic. By no means do I think the 5 series is a bad car, quite the opposite. It’s one of the better looking cars in the lineup and drives great…people just aren’t buying them. That’s partially now because it’s at the end of its lifecycle, but the other is many are switching to SUV’s. Not sure if it’s the price point or just the current trend in this country.

I’m looking forward to the G60 and hope it’s a great success, but in my opinion the i5 won’t be a popular option…especially if the price point is north of 80k.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Game

I do run the new car inventory at a BMW store so I do have some pretty good insight on the topic. By no means do I think the 5 series is a bad car, quite the opposite. It’s one of the better looking cars in the lineup and drives great…people just aren’t buying them. That’s partially now because it’s at the end of its lifecycle, but the other is many are switching to SUV’s. Not sure if it’s the price point or just the current trend in this country.

I’m looking forward to the G60 and hope it’s a great success, but in my opinion the i5 won’t be a popular option…especially if the price point is north of 80k.

There is clearly a huge shift to SUV’s. They’ve tricked everyone into believing they’re more practical. That’s not necessarily true. I took a family of 3 to the beach for a week in a 540 with all luggage and toys fitting in the trunk, no roof box needed. Add a roof box and make it a family of 4, easy.

Depending on how tall the rear passengers are, the SUV can get a nod. But frankly a tall person won’t have much room in the second row of the X5 either. GLE maybe, since you can adjust its second row backwards.

I think the German auto makers can keep their mid size sedans going. 5 series, E class, S5/6. I see a lot of those cars on the road. But Cadillac only has two sedans now and no 7 series/S Class competitor. I think the older crowd is also moving to SUV’s because they’re easier on the knees and back for entry and exit.

Basically, I get what you’re saying. I think it’s a trend built on as much misconception as anything. I hate that Volvo is the only one with a good looking, every day wagon. But I know it’s been a trend for a while now to move to an SUV.

[E66er]

Originally Posted by CFoote

You literally have a E65 which is one of the worst bangle designs. Yes, you better get your flame suit on my friend.

Looks fine to me.

[E66er]

Originally Posted by NGT2

They’ve tricked everyone into believing they’re more practical.

Well, they are. Yes you can dump stuff into a sedan's trunk, but to reach that stuff on the road is a hassle - diaper bag, toy bag, extra pillows, snack bag...etc.

In places with tall curbs, a sedan will scrape its bumper earlier than SUVs.

To go camping with a traditional sedan...well...you won't go very far off the road.

[bavarianboar]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

It's not a huge difference, but it was enough where I couldn't buy a pre-LCI F90 after I saw the LCI. It's currently the best looking car BMW makes, IMO. I might be biased though.

Key word “currently”

G30 is F30 generation, G20 looks more modern in every way for comparison. I love my G30 too but won’t say even the LCI is best looking, it’s showing it’s age.

[jackaleyess]

Originally Posted by ///M2_MA

Guess the days of the E39 are over 🙈

The best 5 series so far is F10 in my opinion which i had. 528i. It was a beast.

[TEGRITY]

Cant decide. Too many BMWs these days are cat on the wall in terms of design. Gone or those days, where it was love at first sight for the majority.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by Dethsupp0rt

It's not a huge difference, but it was enough where I couldn't buy a pre-LCI F90 after I saw the LCI. It's currently the best looking car BMW makes, IMO. I might be biased though.

Agreed. As an LCI F10 owner I would have a hard time upgrading to a pre-LCI G30 simply because, in my opinion, it’s a step back from the F10 styling-wise. The LCI G30 is a sharper looking machine that actually looks like a step forward from the F10.

Funny how headlight design plays such a huge role in appearance. The pre-LCI F10/G30 look much older, and the headlights are the only major difference.

[2022M550i]

I love my 2022 and glad I bought when I did.

[AP]

Very true
The pre LCI g30 adaptive led were and still are good looking lifts, the standard ones being , well bland but very obviously bmw

See the M badge on the g60 picture, looks very out of place there

This picture is using a wide angle lens which is not going to do the car any favours (same as portraits , a mild telephoto makes someone look better)

Wonder if these are 21 inch wheels there as they seem to fill the wheel wells.

We’ll just a few more days before we get to see it all . To me it’s looking like a scaled down i7 with a more conservative front . I had a close look at an i7 the other day and it did nothing for me.

[advantage20]

[Mg.]

Front looks potentially aggressive and sleek, but is probably also the most conventional.

Side profile looks boring IMO. Very little accentuation, and not even something like a (faux) air breather or folding line (like the 3er and 4er) to break up the emptiness. Hopefully the M5 has a bit more bite to it.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by E66er

Well, they are. Yes you can dump stuff into a sedan's trunk, but to reach that stuff on the road is a hassle - diaper bag, toy bag, extra pillows, snack bag...etc.

In places with tall curbs, a sedan will scrape its bumper earlier than SUVs.

To go camping with a traditional sedan...well...you won't go very far off the road.

People with kids and people that camp started driving vans and SUV’s decades ago. It’s my wife drives an X7, which frees me up to drive a sedan. You’re not wrong, I just don’t think it totally counters my point.

[BMW012]

Originally Posted by advantage20

this picture has been floating around for awhile. im pretty sure its a render and not an actual photo.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by bavarianboar

Key word “currently”

G30 is F30 generation, G20 looks more modern in every way for comparison. I love my G30 too but won’t say even the LCI is best looking, it’s showing it’s age.

Clearly it’s a very subjective conversation.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by Blue Angel

Agreed. As an LCI F10 owner I would have a hard time upgrading to a pre-LCI G30 simply because, in my opinion, it’s a step back from the F10 styling-wise. The LCI G30 is a sharper looking machine that actually looks like a step forward from the F10.

Funny how headlight design plays such a huge role in appearance. The pre-LCI F10/G30 look much older, and the headlights are the only major difference.

That’s funny. I specifically went with a 2020 M550 because I prefer the pre-LCI front end on the G30.

I also really like the F10 styling a lot. I almost bought one of those before I bought my first 5 series - a 2018 540i.

[pharding]

Looks beautiful!

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by BMW012

this picture has been floating around for awhile. im pretty sure its a render and not an actual photo.

You're right:



From:

[skumar55]

Hope they have some good ICE engines for the 5 series in the UK for intro, such as 530d or 540i.

[AmuroRay]

Chinese made Honda Accord with a BMW grill. It’s ugly and bland.

Good thing I have zero brand loyalty, because this car and brand are cheeks.