[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

As a second car for lical runs ev is fine. It will in the foreseeable future not reach range or cost parity with ice..with regards to grid.. when I plug in it at peak times tells me " could we postpone the charging as there is too much demand on the grid'. It's years from 2030. The infrastructure is not ready.

I would consider a cheap small used eV run-around also for running errands and squeezing into public car parks if it wasn't for the big brothers ''you will do as you are told'' stance.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I would consider a cheap small used eV run-around also for running errands and squeezing into public car parks if it wasn't for the big brothers ''you will do as you are told'' stance.

Evs seem to be best when slow and ice seems to be best when fast. Regardless forcing Ev on people who do fast highway miles for long distances is weird.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Evs seem to be best when slow and ice seems to be best when fast. Regardless forcing Ev on people who do fast highway miles for long distances is weird.

Indeed the faster you go, the range you can travel drops down significantly in an EV.
Some friends of ours made a trip to Switzerland recently in their 2 YO tesla and next time we see them I'll ask how they got on, looking forward to that.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Indeed the faster you go, the range you can travel drops down significantly in an EV.
Some friends of ours made a trip to Switzerland recently in their 2 YO tesla and next time we see them I'll ask how they got on, looking forward to that.

Which reminds me of my friend who decided on purchasing the model s to take a trip from Glasgow to Paris for supercharger free miles to avoid flight costs.

His daughter developed diarrhoea due to a virus and he had to make so many stops along the way...plenty of opportunity for charging # should have flown#would have still happened with ice.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Which reminds me of my friend who decided on purchasing the model s to take a trip from Glasgow to Paris for supercharger free miles to avoid flight costs.

His daughter developed diarrhoea due to a virus and he had to make so many stops along the way...plenty of opportunity for charging # should have flown#would have still happened with ice.

Sure . In this case it wouldn't have made any difference whatever mode of transport EV or ICE with the constant stops for his daughter to relieve herself and flying would have been better in this case.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

[M5Rick]

I did say I would post another Jag EV suv catastrophe but we've had that so here's a Tesla destroyed at a dealership.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=re...id:BSh5LlUot-0

[gblansten]

Saw these fires as well:

https://www.fox13news.com/news/forme...i-275-in-tampa

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2...roward-county/

[M5Rick]

Here's a Tesla fire while it was being charged inside a garage, note the above living quarters.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=te...id:OIvhNEhIHqA

[gblansten]

Found this interesting on cars catching fire:

https://normantaylor.com/blog/which-...fire-the-most/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Found this interesting on cars catching fire:

https://normantaylor.com/blog/which-...fire-the-most/

Kia and Hyundai, there's a saying that you only get what you pay for as glaringly obvious with these mass produced SK cheapies.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Kia and Hyundai, there's a saying that you only get what you pay for as glaringly obvious with these mass produced SK cheapies.

I just want those who fear cars catching on fire to be armed with a list that warrants maximal anxiety. Why limit oneself to Teslas or EV Jaguars? Facts can facilitate the most emotional carnage from automotive immolation.

The 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe should cause some on here to really clutch their pearls.

[dreamingat30fps]

Been in NC living the ICE life for a couple of months now. Had to come to FL for some work stuff and was reminded how I miss my model 3!

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I just want those who fear cars catching on fire to be armed with a list that warrants maximal anxiety. Why limit oneself to Teslas or EV Jaguars? Facts can facilitate the most emotional carnage from automotive immolation.

The 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe should cause some on here to really clutch their pearls.

This is predominantly an EV bashing thread. Posting data showing HEV and ICE vehicles catch fire significantly more often than BEVs just doesn't fit the vibe of the thread. So please stick to posting random videos of EVs on fire. Mmmmkay?

[M5Rick]

Sorry to disappoint but there's this also, EV values dropping like a stone as ICE vehicle values rise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ca...l_desktop_home

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Sorry to disappoint but there's this also, EV values dropping like a stone as ICE vehicles value rise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ca...l_desktop_home

Cars are a depreciating asset, but who in their right mind would buy a used EV? I don't know a single mechanic who could work on one.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Sorry to disappoint but there's this also, EV values dropping like a stone as ICE vehicle values rise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ca...l_desktop_home

Makes me glad I lease.

[KRS_SN]

M5Rick
Kia, hyundai..don't fret there's nio byd xpeng zeekr hongqii ora etc on the way..

[KRS_SN]

Just came across this..makes me sick

https://youtu.be/_ZiSZbWIrzA

https://dawnproject.com/campaigns/

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

M5Rick
Kia, hyundai..don't fret there's nio byd xpeng zeekr hongqii ora etc on the way..

Those will likely catch fire on the way over on the ship.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Those will likely catch fire on the way over on the ship.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Sorry to disappoint but there's this also, EV values dropping like a stone as ICE vehicle values rise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ca...l_desktop_home

Nooooooooo!!! Not the Vauxhall Mokka-e!!!! Say it isn't soooooo!!!!! I bought 12 of those thinking they would surely become instant classics and I could sell them and retire!