[lakefront]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

That thought is a little scary considering how much some BEVs weigh, like the Rivian or Hummer...

And what horrible drivers the majority of the public are....

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

That thought is a little scary considering how much some BEVs weigh, like the Rivian or Hummer...

Also, there is so many people just not interested in fast cars. Combine that with the insane weight of these vehicles this is not going to end well. More than likely, they will tone it down as far as torque and horsepower. They have to.

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by lakefront

And what horrible drivers the majority of the public are....

No doubt about that!

I almost got t-boned the other day by a young driver who clearly did not understand the difference between a 4-way stop and a 2-way stop where cross traffic doesn't stop. I was on the road without a stop waiting for oncoming traffic to pass so I could make a left turn. Just as the oncoming traffic passed, a car to my right that was stopped on the cross street took off across the intersection onto the street I was turning towards.

They also looked completely dumbfounded, probably not even realizing they were in the wrong.

[Sedoy]

Yep, add 2023 BMW i7 xDrive60 to this list, the stupid thing weighs 6,067 lb. Not really sure how they managed that because Plaid is around 4,830 lbs with roughly the same battery and extra motor, must be all that soundproofing

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

That thought is a little scary considering how much some BEVs weigh, like the Rivian or Hummer...

[SoCal_NSX]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Also, there is so many people just not interested in fast cars. Combine that with the insane weight of these vehicles this is not going to end well. More than likely, they will tone it down as far as torque and horsepower. They have to.

Not every EV is a 3 second car..... there are plenty of them that mimic the slower ICE vehicles acceleration and performance...They do make fast ones though, for people who are interested in fast cars.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

That thought is a little scary considering how much some BEVs weigh, like the Rivian or Hummer...

It seems that it will make commuting easily.

Imagine people who can’t accelerate out of harms way? That causes accidents.

Imagine people being so upset with their slow ass car that it turns into road rage?

If we all had equal performance, how smooth would commuting be?

10 seconds daily’s I think everyone should experience lol

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Guess they forget when summer time comes gas goes up. I wonder how much is 91 in Cali these days. 7 bucks a gallon? Lmao

Jesus cross!!!!!

Guess they forget EV lose 20% to 30% range in the winter and have slower recharge rates. Lmaooooo.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Says the person who’s never owned an ev lmaoooooo

Last winter I lost roughly 15 miles of range overnight. Each night.

That’s with sentry mode on sitting from 630pm to 5am.

But i forgot that negates it all when I wake up with a fresh charge each night so it probably costs me 2 bucks a night.

Meanwhile that 2 dollars is for like 1 quart of gas for the rest of you lmaoooooo

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Guess they forget when summer time comes gas goes up. I wonder how much is 91 in Cali these days. 7 bucks a gallon? Lmao

Jesus cross!!!!!

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Guess they forget EV lose 20% to 30% range in the winter and have slower recharge rates. Lmaooooo.

That's if you can charge your EV last summer in Cali. Remember the plea from the Cali Gubment to not charge your EV due to the grid being overloaded?

[BGM-M3COMP]

Sucks for cali lol

Can't wait for the improvement by 2035 when we get ready for the final transition!

[KRS_SN]

I've been in a 2022 530e for the past 2 weeks(2l petrol engine mated to a 12kwh battery) as my x5 is with bmw due to a problem with electrics
Real life range of 32 miles on a full charge
Charges from.0-100% in 5 hours from an extension 3 pin lead
Runs 38mpg when battery depleted but then recharges the battery by regeneration so that power is available when needing to overtake or when going from standstill. Healthy 0-60 of 5.8
Very well built. Very comfortable. Very quiet.
Its a world apart from a tesla 3/y and better build than an s and interior is great has hud and buttons for everything.
My commute to work and back is 26 miles and I can easily do this on electric range
When I have trips of 100 miles the petrol motor is there
I'm very convinced that hybrid is the way to go than all out EV.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I've been in a 2022 530e for the past 2 weeks(2l petrol engine mated to a 12kwh battery) as my x5 is with bmw due to a problem with electrics
Real life range of 32 miles on a full charge
Charges from.0-100% in 5 hours from an extension 3 pin lead
Runs 38mpg when battery depleted but then recharges the battery by regeneration so that power is available when needing to overtake or when going from standstill. Healthy 0-60 of 5.8
Very well built. Very comfortable. Very quiet.
Its a world apart from a tesla 3/y and better build than an s and interior is great has hud and buttons for everything.
My commute to work and back is 26 miles and I can easily do this on electric range
When I have trips of 100 miles the petrol motor is there
I'm very convinced that hybrid is the way to go than all out EV.

For the life of me I can't understand why governments aren't even considering this as a option.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

For the life of me I can't understand why governments aren't even considering this as a option.

I don't understand either.
We have 100kwh battery of lithium which tales a toll on the earth when mining.
Is it more environmental friendly to put 25 each in a car with a small engine or lump the whole thing into an ev and expect the country and the infrastructure to cope magically and inconvenience a lot of people.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I've been in a 2022 530e for the past 2 weeks(2l petrol engine mated to a 12kwh battery) as my x5 is with bmw due to a problem with electrics
Real life range of 32 miles on a full charge
Charges from.0-100% in 5 hours from an extension 3 pin lead
Runs 38mpg when battery depleted but then recharges the battery by regeneration so that power is available when needing to overtake or when going from standstill. Healthy 0-60 of 5.8
Very well built. Very comfortable. Very quiet.
Its a world apart from a tesla 3/y and better build than an s and interior is great has hud and buttons for everything.
My commute to work and back is 26 miles and I can easily do this on electric range
When I have trips of 100 miles the petrol motor is there
I'm very convinced that hybrid is the way to go than all out EV.

GM's Volt was an even better series hybrid. It was introduced to the market 13 years ago as 2011 model.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

GM's Volt was an even better series hybrid. It was introduced to the market 13 years ago as 2011 model.

Interesting..seems to have had a 50 mile plus range which is great.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Says the person who’s never owned an ev lmaoooooo

Last winter I lost roughly 15 miles of range overnight. Each night.

That’s with sentry mode on sitting from 630pm to 5am.

But i forgot that negates it all when I wake up with a fresh charge each night so it probably costs me 2 bucks a night.

Meanwhile that 2 dollars is for like 1 quart of gas for the rest of you lmaoooooo

LOL. Dude most people on this thread don't think you have an EV either. Me included. You have said for the last 6 months you have a S Plaid "on order", when you could go buy a brand new one available from Tesla's inventory in NJ today. Me and numerous other people pointed out a few months ago that something like 12 were available in or near New Jersey at that time. Since then, your Boy Elon has dropped the S Plaid price twice from $150K now down to $109K, but you still have no S Plaid.

There are several real-world tests that show the Tesla Model 3 loses between 17% and 24% range in wintertime; other EV lose nearly 35% range. While the Tesla design (heat pump) does better than other EVs, it still loses a significant drop in range. Winter still increases recharge recovery rate for every EV; it's simple chemistry.

[BGM-M3COMP]

I got the plaid on order, the model y on order I have a model 3 now and my z06 is being built.

So yeah I can’t wait for 2035!!!!! Lmaooooo

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

For the life of me I can't understand why governments aren't even considering this as a option.

Who cares. It’s gonna happen people really need to stop bitching already.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

I got the plaid on order, the model y on order I have a model 3 now and my z06 is being built.

So yeah I can’t wait for 2035!!!!! Lmaooooo

So, it's coming this week or next? Just pulled from the Tesla website, there are 10 Plaids available in inventory 100 miles from zip 07001. And if you order today...

Comeonman. Lmfaooooo

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

So, it's coming this week or next? Just pulled from the Tesla website, there are 10 Plaids available in inventory 100 miles from zip 07001. And if you order today...

Comeonman. Lmfaooooo

And 11 MYLR, 2 MYP, 1 MY, all in stock, all within 100 miles from same zip. Maybe they lost it or something

Dude does not see outside his little box, NJ at best sees low 40s high 30s on average in the winter, and he already loses 15 miles from his 'wild' winter.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by kyriian

And 11 MYLR, 2 MYP, 1 MY, all in stock, all within 100 miles from same zip. Maybe they lost it or something

Dude does not see outside his little box, NJ at best sees low 40s high 30s on average in the winter, and he already loses 15 miles from his 'wild' winter.

Lose 40 miles of range each night in winter?

Umm no. Not once this entire winter even though it was “mild” have I saw 40 miles of lost range.

15 at most with sentry mode.

It’s fucking hilarious people talking about ev’s that have never owned them lmaoooo

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

So, it's coming this week or next? Just pulled from the Tesla website, there are 10 Plaids available in inventory 100 miles from zip 07001. And if you order today...

Comeonman. Lmfaooooo

Z06 comes first, been saying that a while.

One day you can get a z06 too and a plaid.

I’ll pray you can attain such things lmaoooooo