[NGT2]

Originally Posted by oz555

I said. Mine is in repair shop for days. 35k miles. Gas milage is better with 330i by 30%. Enough

I think your just in love with your 4 banger and that’s okay. No one said it’s a bad engine either.

I’m sorry about your water pump. That sucks. I have not seen this be a common issue. All engines are at risk of some parts failure. The reliability is based on a large sample size, not one car.

Gas mileage is only one factor. The 330i can never produce the kind of power a B58 powered sedan is capable of. It’s a combination of power, smooth delivery, efficiency, and reliability.

It’s easy to be good at one thing. A Lexus GX will run forever. Very reliable. Also slow and drives like shit. Other cars are powerful and smooth but break all the time or get like 15 mpg. It’s hard to find a car/engine that can do all things well. The B58 does.

No one is dogging the 4 banger but you’re going to have a hard time on a car forum building a large contingency that don’t find the more powerful B58 to be the “better” engine.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by NGT2

I think your just in love with your 4 banger and that’s okay. No one said it’s a bad engine either.

I’m sorry about your water pump. That sucks. I have not seen this be a common issue. All engines are at risk of some parts failure. The reliability is based on a large sample size, not one car.

Gas mileage is only one factor. The 330i can never produce the kind of power a B58 powered sedan is capable of. It’s a combination of power, smooth delivery, efficiency, and reliability.

It’s easy to be good at one thing. A Lexus GX will run forever. Very reliable. Also slow and drives like shit. Other cars are powerful and smooth but break all the time or get like 15 mpg. It’s hard to find a car/engine that can do all things well. The B58 does.

No one is dogging the 4 banger but you’re going to have a hard time on a car forum building a large contingency that don’t find the more powerful B58 to be the “better” engine.

Unfortunately I don’t have that 4 banger. I drive M340iX. I don’t like it as a previous 420d Gran Coupe. I don’t care about other opinions in forum. To each his own. B58 is good but not magnificent.

[JMD]

Originally Posted by oz555

No it is not rock solid. Engine is good but not that good. Full stop

Ok,...name a BMW engine with more time on the street that's better and reliable than the B58 Gen I,...B58 Gen II,...be it stock or modded,...M or non-M!

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by oz555

Unfortunately I don’t have that 4 banger. I drive M340iX. I don’t like it as a previous 420d Gran Coupe. I don’t care about other opinions in forum. To each his own. B58 is good but not magnificent.

Fair enough. Honestly, why don’t you get a 430 or 330 if you liked it better? Life is short and it probably would be pretty easy to do financially.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by NGT2

Fair enough. Honestly, why don’t you get a 430 or 330 if you liked it better? Life is short and it probably would be pretty easy to do financially.

I hope soon.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by JMD

Ok,...name a BMW engine with more time on the street that's better and reliable than the B58 Gen I,...B58 Gen II,...be it stock or modded,...M or non-M!

B47

[JMD]

Originally Posted by oz555

B47

If that's your cup of tea!,...by all means!

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by oz555

I hope soon.

Why’d you get the M340?

There was a poster in the G30 forum that bought a M550 and ended up trading it back, I think, for maybe a X5 40i or a 540i. Bigger/more powerful isn’t always better for every person. I get it.

[MisanoblueZ4]

New to BMW but loving the B58 in my Z4 M40i, truly spectacular that it delivers performance on par with C7 Corvettes (460hp V8) while obliterating those V8’s in fuel economy.

Mid-upper 30’s mpg easily on highway drives, upper 20’s to 30 around town …..as long as your not in Sport modes otherwise it’s mid 20’s mpg’s.

I find it very amusing BMW rates it 382hp when it very clearly is substantially over that rating.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by JMD

If that's your cup of tea!,...by all means!

Originally Posted by NGT2

Why’d you get the M340?

There was a poster in the G30 forum that bought a M550 and ended up trading it back, I think, for maybe a X5 40i or a 540i. Bigger/more powerful isn’t always better for every person. I get it.

Because I’ve watched reviews by stupid jurnalists. They were delighted with M340i. Then I have tested 330i RWD, which was an excellent car. After that dealer gave me good offer for M340i… My mistake. I should not buy what I have never driven.

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by oz555

Because I’ve watched reviews by stupid jurnalists. They were delighted with M340i. Then I have tested 330i RWD, which was an excellent car. After that dealer gave me good offer for M340i… My mistake. I should not buy what I have never driven.

What amazed you about the 330i that doesn’t amaze you with the M340i? Was the 330i RWD and the M340i AWD? Then maybe an M340i RWD would’ve been more your choice.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by oz555

Because I’ve watched reviews by stupid jurnalists. They were delighted with M340i. Then I have tested 330i RWD, which was an excellent car. After that dealer gave me good offer for M340i… My mistake. I should not buy what I have never driven.

Been there, brother. My wife was ADAMANT that she wanted that 2022 Lexus GX. Adamant that she’d driven one as a loaner and a test drive was not needed. 100% positive. We had it 10 months and traded it for a CPO 2021 X7 40i.

Needless to say, “we” learned our lesson.

I do not really like the 530. Had it as a loaner multiple times. However I did really enjoy the 330i loaner. I think I’d still opt for the M340 but in the 3 series, the 4 cyl is still a fun ride.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

What amazed you about the 330i that doesn’t amaze you with the M340i? Was the 330i RWD and the M340i AWD? Then maybe an M340i RWD would’ve been more your choice.

No M340i RWD in Europe. Car is different. A lot.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by NGT2

Been there, brother. My wife was ADAMANT that she wanted that 2022 Lexus GX. Adamant that she’d driven one as a loaner and a test drive was not needed. 100% positive. We had it 10 months and traded it for a CPO 2021 X7 40i.

Needless to say, “we” learned our lesson.

I do not really like the 530. Had it as a loaner multiple times. However I did really enjoy the 330i loaner. I think I’d still opt for the M340 but in the 3 series, the 4 cyl is still a fun ride.

I agree. 530i is too big for 4 cylinder engine. But 3 series is very good.

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by oz555

No M340i RWD in Europe. Car is different. A lot.

I mean technically speaking, it shouldn’t be. What is it that you feel is different in a negative way? The 330i and M340i are nearly identical mechanically. The only major differences should be the B58, e-LSD, a sportier suspension (if comparing against a non-M sport 330i), and VSS (also comparing against a non M sport 330i I believe), and also a MH system. The two cars should behave and feel nearly the same with only the M340i being faster and ever so slightly more sporty driving dynamics.

The M340i mechanically is a lot closer to a 330i than an M3. Perhaps there is something wrong with your vehicle?

[oz555]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

I mean technically speaking, it shouldn’t be. What is it that you feel is different in a negative way? The 330i and M340i are nearly identical mechanically. The only major differences should be the B58, e-LSD, a sportier suspension (if comparing against a non-M sport 330i), and VSS (also comparing against a non M sport 330i I believe), and also a MH system. The two cars should behave and feel nearly the same with only the M340i being faster and ever so slightly more sporty driving dynamics.

The M340i mechanically is a lot closer to a 330i than an M3. Perhaps there is something wrong with your vehicle?

In theory yes. But the difference is huge.

[JMD]

Originally Posted by oz555

Because I’ve watched reviews by stupid jurnalists. They were delighted with M340i. Then I have tested 330i RWD, which was an excellent car. After that dealer gave me good offer for M340i… My mistake. I should not buy what I have never driven.

Perhaps you should have tested the 330 first! As for me, I always test drive lower level vehicles before testing higher level.

The 330,..or 330e has plenty of power for any everyday driving, etc. For instance,...a US based E36 M3 is rated at 240hp/236LbFt torque,...and Euro version @ 321hp/258LbFt of torque.

Yet, the 2023 330i is rated at 255hp/295LbFt of torque!,...and the 330e is rated at 288hp/310LbFt.

So yeah, the 330i/330e would definitely met your needs,...or anyone's daily needs.

However, many BMW owners want more,...and that's what the M340 provides! I'd venture to say a 330i/e would leave a stock E36 M3,...give the torque and AWD grip!,...and an M340 would leave 'em all sitting at the traffic light!

So, you did no due diligence in your decision making process,...except rely on reviews of others,...but you know this already. There's always a next time.

Other than that,...just keep the M340 for 6-months to a year,...then trade down to a 330i or 330e! No reviews needed...

[oz555]

Originally Posted by JMD

Perhaps you should have tested the 330 first! As for me, I always test drive lower level vehicles before testing higher level.

The 330,..or 330e has plenty of power for any everyday driving, etc. For instance,...a US based E36 M3 is rated at 240hp/236LbFt torque,...and Euro version @ 321hp/258LbFt of torque.

Yet, the 2023 330i is rated at 255hp/295LbFt of torque!,...and the 330e is rated at 288hp/310LbFt.

So yeah, the 330i/330e would definitely met your needs,...or anyone's daily needs.

However, many BMW owners want more,...and that's what the M340 provides! I'd venture to say a 330i/e would leave a stock E36 M3,...give the torque and AWD grip!,...and an M340 would leave 'em all sitting at the traffic light!

So, you did no due diligence in your decision making process,...except rely on reviews of others,...but you know this already. There's always a next time.

Other than that,...just keep the M340 for 6-months to a year,...then trade down to a 330i or 330e! No reviews needed...

I have tested only 330i before. M340 was blind buy.

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by ASAP

i got 26 mpg on the hwy in my awd x3... 28 mixed for a sedan is good but nothing amazing all things considered... edpecially given today's offerings

I get 26-28 mpg in my X5 on the highway and I drive fast usually 75-90 mph, the B58 is amazing!

[BMW012]

according to bmwusa the 2024 540ix does 33mpg.

[BeEmVee]

Originally Posted by Condorll

I get 26-28 mpg in my X5 on the highway and I drive fast usually 75-90 mph, the B58 is amazing!

I averaged 23mpg through mountain passes and highways with a full load of luggage. Kind of disappointed tbh. I was hoping for over 25mpg!

[OHV_44]

Currently 34 mpg for me (in Germany 8.4 L/100km) in the G01. My new G60 520i will hopefully get 44 mpg.
Mixed routes.