[dankage]

Going to echo the general disappointment. I was really looking forward to this car and waiting to decide between an i7 and i5. I'm not over the moon with the i7 design, but it at least brings something to the table and is aggressive in m sport aero package. In person, the sheer size of the 7 is impressive.

I will wait to see the new 5 in person, but the proportions remind me a lot of the 2 series sedan proportions. To me, there was always something a bit off about the 2 -- like they made a baby version of a full size sedan and scrunched things. To me it never really looked like a bmw.

I do agree the interior at least looks modern and new. The light bar and other design does potentially border on tacky/cheap, but look at Mercedes and their LEDs everywhere. Overall, I do like the more modern look and looking at older models they seem outdated. I'm thankful to see the curved screen looks more integrated into the dash than other models where you can literally see the support arm on the back -- as if someone just stuck on the screen as an afterthought.

I think it's still going to sell because BMW is in a unique price point compared to Audi and Mercedes. It's cheaper than the luxury German brands, and has way more bang for your buck and luxury than your Asian luxury vehicles for example. It's the same reason I'm considering an i7 as opposed to an S class for example. I can fully load and get a flagship model for cheaper than a top of the line Mercedes for example.

Overall underwhelmed by the exterior looks of the car. The "5" on the kink is incredibly tacky and can't believe it's on a luxury sedan.

Sigh... Fingers crossed for it looking great in person.

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by dankage

Going to echo the general disappointment. I was really looking forward to this car and waiting to decide between an i7 and i5. I'm not over the moon with the i7 design, but it at least brings something to the table and is aggressive in m sport aero package. In person, the sheer size of the 7 is impressive.

I will wait to see the new 5 in person, but the proportions remind me a lot of the 2 series sedan proportions. To me, there was always something a bit off about the 2 — like they made a baby version of a full size sedan and scrunched things. To me it never really looked like a bmw.

I do agree the interior at least looks modern and new. The light bar and other design does potentially border on tacky/cheap, but look at Mercedes and their LEDs everywhere. Overall, I do like the more modern look and looking at older models they seem outdated. I'm thankful to see the curved screen looks more integrated into the dash than other models where you can literally see the support arm on the back — as if someone just stuck on the screen as an afterthought.

I think it's still going to sell because BMW is in a unique price point compared to Audi and Mercedes. It's cheaper than the luxury German brands, and has way more bang for your buck and luxury than your Asian luxury vehicles for example. It's the same reason I'm considering an i7 as opposed to an S class for example. I can fully load and get a flagship model for cheaper than a top of the line Mercedes for example.

Overall underwhelmed by the exterior looks of the car. The "5" on the kink is incredibly tacky and [...]

I saw a M235 GC tonight. The rear does look very similar to these 5 series pictures. There wasn’t anything offensive about it. But it wasn’t that appealing either. Again, kind of boring.

[leofuxing]

Anybody else disappointed with the lack of beige interior?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by leofuxing

Anybody else disappointed with the lack of beige interior?

The interior selection in general seems to be lacking and not a fan of the two-tone. The trim selection also is not the best in my opinion.

[leofuxing]

Do you guys think the 540i will come standard with the M Sport Package like the current 7 series?

[speedmaster20d]

ugly heavy and as slow as a Hyundai. a 6-7 sec 0-60 BMW.....?

[Sequence001]

Is the rear diffuser on the M60 an option for the edrive 40? I saw that the M Sport Pro Package has additional sport items but I’m not sure if the diffuser is included.

Can anyone confirm?

[bavarianboar]

Originally Posted by Sequence001

Is the rear diffuser on the M60 an option for the edrive 40? I saw that the M Sport Pro Package has additional sport items but I’m not sure if the diffuser is included.

Can anyone confirm?

Unlikely, they want $20k more for you to get that diffuser along with other goodies. Won’t be part of an additional “package” from what we can tell.

Aftermarket or you could buy when spares start to show up (provided the fitment is the same).

[advantage20]

Originally Posted by leofuxing

Anybody else disappointed with the lack of beige interior?

Is it absent from certain markets?

[440i6MT]

Change for the sake of change.
Not good.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by advantage20

Is it absent from certain markets?

Wish the beige was more on the doors and dash area. Also is it just me or does anyone else find the doors to look really cheap?

[AP]

Yeh the materials don’t look as plush as I would expect
Maybe different to the feel but looks wise yeh agree
No Alcantara headlining yet although that may follow ( that was the case when the g30 came out)

Although some it it does looks good quality and some reviews have stated that, it feels like some cost cutting going on here. Also hearing comfort seats don’t have upper back adjustment.
So a lot of money for this car and it seems to be missing a few things

[matbl]

Originally Posted by AP

Yeh the materials don’t look as plush as I would expect
Maybe different to the feel but looks wise yeh agree
No Alcantara headlining yet although that may follow ( that was the case when the g30 came out)

Although some it it does looks good quality and some reviews have stated that, it feels like some cost cutting going on here. Also hearing comfort seats don’t have upper back adjustment.
So a lot of money for this car and it seems to be missing a few things

Material choices now from the start really sucks. Let's see if there are updates in a year or so.
Or at LCI.

[bmwpassionate]

Still not able to understand the design of headlight and tail light..why they are so BAD...

[Cruise'n]

Look at photo. Ewww
Look at comments I'm not alone
What has happened to European models all vomit 🤮

Lucky USA have better taste for the X models

[hufington]

Interior looks very bland and like it is the end result of harsh cost-saving measures. Nothing looks upscale even a little bit.

[AP]

Kicked off a poll previously with whether people liked the g60 or not. Seems to be about 50/50 more or less.
I wonder if this is a age/ generation thing?
Ie wondering if it the younger ones amongst us that like it and is or more mature years don’t?
Maybe it’s nothing to do with it?

If the Chinese market is what it’s being geared up for , is this dictating it’s style?

Just wondering

[cpt]

Originally Posted by AP

Kicked off a poll previously with whether people liked the g60 or not. Seems to be about 50/50 more or less.
I wonder if this is a age/ generation thing?
Ie wondering if it the younger ones amongst us that like it and is or more mature years don’t?
Maybe it’s nothing to do with it?

If the Chinese market is what it’s being geared up for , is this dictating it’s style?

Just wondering

Would also be interesting to see if those who disliked the G60 tend to be long time BMW owners (which may very well correlate with age). I chatted with a few friends (non-BMW owners), they generally liked the styling, mostly because the grill is normal sized.

Styling details may be influenced by target markets e.g. China, but I think the weird proportion is clearly a compromise due to the battery situation, which hopefully will be far less constraining before the next gen comes out as battery energy density continues to improve.

[CaboM4]

Originally Posted by cpt

Would also be interesting to see if those who disliked the G60 tend to be long time BMW owners (which may very well correlate with age). I chatted with a few friends (non-BMW owners), they generally liked the styling, mostly because the grill is normal sized.

Styling details may be influenced by target markets e.g. China, but I think the weird proportion is clearly a compromise due to the battery situation, which hopefully will be far less constraining before the next gen comes out as battery energy density continues to improve.

I was so thoroughly disappointed after the G60 launch that I went and bought a G70! Was mostly the small battery that makes it a deal-breaker for me, then the aesthetics came next

[KashunatoR]

Any idea when the 530 ix will become available for order in Europe? The engines that Bmw announced for now are underwheliming, to say the least.

[advantage20]

[akin67]

Originally Posted by Nahlem

Thought i would add the i4 vs i5 top dogs both with Brooklyn grey colour from the configurator. Seems like there is a small difference in the B-Grey config in terms of colour. Probably only on the web and not in real life. Both looks nice in their own way i prefer the i4 side, back but the i5 front seems more modern but i like the i4s angel eyes more then the i5 side drls. Also the i4s front reminds me more of a BMW in a way then the i5. Both are though great in their own ways i guess.

Based on this side by side the 4 series definitely looks nicer.