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Interesting article on lithium-ion batteries and temperature.
https://www.recurrentauto.com/resear...eries-and-heat
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08-09-2023, 06:57 AM | #3500 | |
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It definitely possible there is an issue with his battery, but the range is also based on driving habits, just like range in an ICE car, if you have a heavy foot or drive on the highway a lot it could affect the range. I have a 2021 with around 20k miles and my range has dropped from 330 to 325. From what I’ve seen, the expected degradation seems to be around 5% the first year and 1% per year after But yeah the claimed mileage thing is weird. EVs do not like highway speeds at all and will rip through charge much faster than they will around town. From my experience at 35-45mph the estimate is fairly accurate but at highway speeds it’s definitely overestimated. I don’t do a lot of highway driving though. |
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08-09-2023, 08:13 AM | #3501 |
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In other news, anyone check out this video? The way the McMurtry F's off at the 8:40 mark is completely ridiculous, it almost looks fake. I dont care if you hate EVs or not, if you say you wouldn't want a chance to drive that thing, or the Rimac, you're lying
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EV hater are the lifted diesel truck broskis who intentionally unplug EVs or intentionally deface, ruin EV chargers, or roll coal in front of EV just for shiz and giggles. I'd like to think majority of the people actively posting here have a little more intelligence than that Most here who do tend to argue against EVs are not haters, I'd say are are skeptical, maybe it doesn't fit their needs, mostly do not agree with how world governments are now actively using tax payer dollars to force the market with zero planning, little consultation, and even understanding that many may not find EV suitable to their needs or meet their particular budget. This is not done for environmental improvements as they claim it is, it is done for political points. To a lesser extent it just forces consumerism as usual. EVs are just objects, to 'hate' an object you'd have to live a pretty sad life. Yes, I'd love to have a go at the McMurtry or the Rimac just so i can piss my pants in a car.
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08-09-2023, 08:53 AM | #3503 |
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Just a bit of hyperbole, I wasn't calling anyone out. Just saying there's no enthusiast out there who could honestly say they would want to drive it (which is still hyperbole )
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08-09-2023, 09:21 AM | #3505 |
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I drove an Ioniq 5 and Model 3 yesterday.
I love the exterior design of Ioniq 5, but both leave a lot to be desired for interior. And the build quality is pretty bad. Tesla drove very nice and the weight of both was very obvious. The acceleration is very deceptive and quick. It was very much a Logitech experience in the driving department. I can totally see the appeal of them for significant majority of consumers, many of whom don't even know what model of car they just drove to the grocery store. Some day, I hope a nice 3-series Touring EV comes to market for a reasonable price and I'd take a look at it when it hit a used car market 8-10 years later. I'm not against EVs, but the whole premise that this will save the planet is very strange to me. It's like all the magic pills to get in shape and lose weight in just two weeks. The recipe to save polar bears is simple: consume less. Less oil AND lithium. As long as the energy demand goes up we're just hoping from source to source and destroying things along the way. BTW, I'm not an environmentalist. I just hope some common sense wins in the end. |
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08-09-2023, 09:24 AM | #3506 |
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I'm not anti ev either. I own one. Despite this I know EV alone cannot do what the ICE does ie freedom to go anywhere anytime and anylong hence I've got this little fella to give company to the range limited EV to ensure my needs are met.
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08-09-2023, 09:37 AM | #3507 |
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Can't wait to see the pressure applied in determining the cause of fire on car carriers. ("Can't PROVE fire was caused by EV")....Right. Figuring in a billion dollars total cost of losing each ship won't help the push to electric if costs are properly allocated.
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08-09-2023, 10:14 AM | #3508 |
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Agreed, I think people have to look at their use case and determine if an EV only garage can meet their needs. That's why I have the M2 on the way to replace my Corvette, rather than an EV.
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08-09-2023, 10:27 AM | #3509 |
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I would totally get an EV as second (um... third/fourth car) as my daily routine to for school drop-off is a very short distance and the ICE version barely warms up properly.
But the cost will need to be much lower for me to add one since I wouldn't sell my E91 for one. For example, e-Golf or i3 would be great. But used, they both cost too much. If I had time, I would definitely get a cheap hatchback and do EV conversion for fun. But I don't have time, nor driveway space. And I always wondered how does motor vehicle inspection work for EV converted cars around here. |
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The best part is you never jump in the car and think "dammit, I need to get gas today before/after school drop off." The car is just always ready to do exactly what you want without any extra stops |
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I read it, owner satisfaction is not the same as reputation. Or did I miss the “reputation” metric somewhere in there
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And predicted reliability based on actual observed reliability? Wouldn't that be a pretty good measure for the formula when we are discussing reliability? Wouldn't that factor in to owner satisfaction? I mean, it does to me, but I'm not everybody else.
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The statement I asked for evidence of was that BMW has a reputation of reliability or durability. This data doesn’t convince me that the average car buyer views BMWs as reliable or long lasting
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