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These are in between cars and guys Bmw is holding back for the next generation stuff. You don’t have to buy this crap it’s over priced, under thoughtful ..designed flawed
They’re just throwing a Bmw badge on it. This is all beta tech Guys! |
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I don’t think the G90 will be that controversial in term of design but the electric bit along with the weight just doesn’t fit with what M division enthusiasts want. They better attract a new pool of buyers or this will be a flop commercially.
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If you told me back when I owned an e46 M3 and F150 that eventually the M5 would weigh as much as the top of the line Ford F150 (Raptor) I would have called you crazy, yet here we are.
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I think it looks good in these pictures. Even the current M3 looked odd in camo but once revealed it looked really good. Even now, when I look in the garage, it looks like a race car. I think this thing will be really aggressive when revealed. I already like the front.
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05-08-2024, 09:21 AM | #100 |
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The thing to take away from this is they should not be putting heavy ass batteries in a performance first car. If you want to add the battery crap to the regular line up sure go ahead make them heavy tanks. The performance high end though? How does making this thing heavy AF add up to very good track weapon? When in the history of motorsport did more weight ever equal to more better? So you added power to accommodate for the weight just barely imo. You could have added power and kept the weight in check any number of ways but yet you decided to add batty packs to do it? making the car burn through brakes and tires like an animal? This is a good thing? I would love to hear the official word from BMW M division on as to why this makes ANY kind of good sense for their flagship M car.
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Oh and forgot to add. Why in hell did they de tune the 4.4l tt v8 they have in all the other M cars? My f95 and the current f90 make 618hp yet this one only 577? Why? I would love to hear their reason. Last edited by Savoy2001; 05-08-2024 at 12:01 PM.. |
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I agree this is the crux of the matter. These cars companies have all been placed on an unrealistic timeline for the retirement of ICE engines. California wants 0% ICE sales in their state by 2030. Good luck with that goal. And these forced EV timelines have resulted in half-baked products coming to market that subsequently fall short of customer expectations and harm the reputation for EV cars in general. So the governments are actually shooting themselves in the foot because, at least in part, it's their rushed timelines that are effectively responsible for turning public opinion against the technology which then slows adoption. But, it's government so none of us should be surprised. |
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Weight is added for efficiency and regulations. Doesn’t make it right. But I don’t think M has the track in mind on this car. They do ///marketing at the track, but that’s more for testing the car at its thermal and physics limits. |
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People who are saying the G90 reveal, will be like the G80 reveal.
I highly doubt it. The G80 when it came out, was criticized for its looks and increased weight (dropping M-DCT) and so on, but the truth is, the market changed rapidly, to the point that if you want a mid-sized performance car, you have to buy a G80. There is no other car. The RS5 is pretty much gone. The new C63 is a turd. Lastly, its on a ICE platform (not plugin crap or whatever). The G90 M5, on the other hand is not a full ICE platform. It will go into competition against fully baked EV cars that are performance-ready (Taycan Turbo GT, Plaid, Lucid Air Sapphire), weighing more and offering less performance? Than to make matters worse, even if you look from Plug-in Hybrid perspective with a V8, there is a Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid that is for sure a better driving vehicle, there is the S63 AMG, even the E53 AMG (glad AMG was not stupid to ruin the 63 name for the E). And the last ICE platform for this segment, will be the Audi RS6, RS7. Who knew, that an Audi would be the enthusiast pick out of a segment? LOL BMW should have learned from the E-Performance AMG fail and E-Hybrid fail of Porsche, that this was the path to doom, not success. The company is f.... I understand that regulations are requiring cars to change rapidly, but BMW should have known by now that a half-baked products such as this, with an outdated battery system, heavy af and inefficient - in one of its flagships, was bound to go wrong. |
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It will be interesting to say the least what happens in this market as we move towards 2030 where the targets for percentage of cars that have to be ev are close to or at 100%
Car companies have to keep lowering their co2 totals and presumably the m5 has a battery in it to reduce that in the tests even though this will be a relatively low number of cars sold in the grand scheme of things I raging await the reviews of this car , can’t be far away now |
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