[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by JAM3S

All pathetic trolls aside...

Glen Beck said he knows who the Saudi "person of interest" really is and will expose him on monday unless the Fed comes clean. He says he is a "bad, bad, bad" man haha. Usually I am let down after these announcements but I certainly cant wait to hear the scoop.

Yeah I heard that on the radio yesterday morning. something about he was going to be deported and someone is trying to hide it. Now they are saying that the older brother was on the Feds person of interest list 2 years ago because Russia gave them a tip.

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

The Glen Beck thing is probably news that was already "broke" days ago about the Saudi being part of a clan that has deep ties to Al Qaeda. Pretty weak if thats all he has.

Also weak that the neo-cons are coming out calling for the 19 yr old to be treated as an enemy combatant. He already has no Miranda rights and will prob be tortured, whats next? ship him to Gitmo? Im all for giving him the death penalty once hes convicted, but hes an American citizen and more bad precedent is being set to strip away more rights. Just great.

[amanda hor$t]

i actually agree with taking a hard line against terrorism. kitchen bombs, shooting schools... anyone can do it. just in the past year: aurora, newtown, lone star college, the boston bomber. america needs to send the message that if you try, you're gonna go down hard.

[rdub315]

Anyone else see Big Papi drop an emphatic f bomb during the pregame ceremony at Fenway? Classic.

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

Originally Posted by R Grubba Balls

i actually agree with taking a hard line against terrorism. kitchen bombs, shooting schools... anyone can do it. just in the past year: aurora, newtown, lone star college, the boston bomber. america needs to send the message that if you try, you're gonna go down hard.

Nothing will deter crazy ppl from doing crazy things. Esp if they plan on killing themselves after the fact (Newtown, Columbine).

The terrorists have already won since the average American is scared of his own shadow and is begging the govt for protection in exchange for liberties.

[Sam335ix]

Originally Posted by JAM3S

Nothing will deter crazy ppl from doing crazy things. Esp if they plan on killing themselves after the fact (Newtown, Columbine).

The terrorists have already won since the average American is scared of his own shadow and is begging the govt for protection in exchange for liberties.

You are Incorrect, I am not afraid and nor are millions of others. I will live my life as I wish but I am smart and vigilant. I often carry a weapon, I pay attention to my surroundings when I go about my day. I am now planning to run in the Boston marathon next year to give the finger to all of the extremist in the world. After 911 we didn't back down, life goes on and there will be more disgusting acts by extremist around the world but good will prevail sooner or later.

[Templar]

Originally Posted by Sam335ix

You are Incorrect, I am not afraid and nor are millions of others. I will live my life as I wish but I am smart and vigilant. I often carry a weapon, I pay attention to my surroundings when I go about my day. I am now planning to run in the Boston marathon next year to give the finger to all of the extremist in the world. After 911 we didn't back down, life goes on and there will be more disgusting acts by extremist around the world but good will prevail sooner or later.

You said you carry a weapon, so what happens when they get their way and take that right from you? How will that make you feel? Will you still feel as safe?

[kmarei]

Originally Posted by Templar

You said you carry a weapon, so what happens when they get their way and take that right from you? How will that make you feel? Will you still feel as safe?

I'm also interested on how that weapon would have helped him in this kind of attack
People think that you carry gun, and you are superman
Fact is, it doesn't do much in this kind of a situation

I'm just curious how soon before pressure cookers need a background check
Unlike guns of course

[Sam335ix]

Originally Posted by Templar

You said you carry a weapon, so what happens when they get their way and take that right from you? How will that make you feel? Will you still feel as safe?

That right will never be taken away! I am all up for extensive back ground checks for buying weapons and the need of assault rifles. I feel safe regardless, evil and scum are out there and all of us have a responsibility to do our part by being vigilant but that doesn't mean paraiod and hate mongering. Statistics show terrorist attacks are on a decline. It's the crazies that we just can't figure out when they strike.

[Sam335ix]

Originally Posted by kmarei

I'm also interested on how that weapon would have helped him in this kind of attack
People think that you carry gun, and you are superman
Fact is, it doesn't do much in this kind of a situation

I'm just curious how soon before pressure cookers need a background check
Unlike guns of course

It doesn't, what I am referring to is staying vigilant. Perhaps packing in this case wouldn't have helped but if one person had a gun on him at the movie theater massacre in Colorado I am sure the out come would have been different. My response was meant that I am not in fear of leaving my house, whatever my faith is will be but that doesn't mean I won't be vigilant.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by JAM3S

Also weak that the neo-cons are coming out calling for the 19 yr old to be treated as an enemy combatant. He already has no Miranda rights and will prob be tortured, whats next? ship him to Gitmo? Im all for giving him the death penalty once hes convicted, but hes an American citizen and more bad precedent is being set to strip away more rights. Just great.

This. I just spent the weekend with a public defender as a guest in my house. She explained that she loved her job. I thought that was so weird. But she explained that she loves her job because of the due process we get as american citizens. Compared to other nations which hold a "trial" in public while having a few people be judge and executioner. I don't want to live in a country where someone can be falsely accused, tried and put to death in a matter of hours.

Originally Posted by JAM3S

Nothing will deter crazy ppl from doing crazy things. Esp if they plan on killing themselves after the fact (Newtown, Columbine).

The terrorists have already won since the average American is scared of his own shadow and is begging the govt for protection in exchange for liberties.

Paraphrasing... those who would give up Freedom for security deserve neither.

[amanda hor$t]

Originally Posted by JAM3S

Nothing will deter crazy ppl from doing crazy things. Esp if they plan on killing themselves after the fact (Newtown, Columbine).

The terrorists have already won since the average American is scared of his own shadow and is begging the govt for protection in exchange for liberties.

if 2 weeks ago someone told the boston bombers they'd be either dead or in a coma in a week, bet you someone would have pussed out. of course there are suicide bombers, but these guys had more bombs prepared and were obviously planning on getting away with it.

[Dkhan23]

It's just a False Flag. FBI never looked in to these guys. and theirs no video of the "suspects" putting down any bags, just of them going around a corner. Funny how the police commissioner said there was no drill, but yet the people on the loud speakers where telling everyone to calm down its just a drill.

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

Originally Posted by Sam335ix

You are Incorrect, I am not afraid and nor are millions of others. I will live my life as I wish but I am smart and vigilant. I often carry a weapon, I pay attention to my surroundings when I go about my day. I am now planning to run in the Boston marathon next year to give the finger to all of the extremist in the world. After 911 we didn't back down, life goes on and there will be more disgusting acts by extremist around the world but good will prevail sooner or later.

How am I incorrect? you are obviously the exception and not the rule if you are as "vigilant" as you claim. One of the bombing victims said he saw the suspect drop his bag in front of him and walk away minutes before the blast. He obviously wasn't vigilant enough (because he did nothing about it) and most ppl wouldn't be either. People saw the big security presence and got lulled into a false sense of security most likely.

I would have to disagree and say we did back down and surrender after 9-11. Panic set in and people looked to the govt to save us and what did we get? The "Patriot" Act, the DHS, the TSA etc etc. The purpose of terrorism is to invoke fear in the civilian population and change their thinking and way of life and that is exactly what happened. We shouldnt need the DHS and TSA because the next time some guys with box cutters try to hijack a plane there will be passengers who know they are in a fight for their lives and they wont be as passive as the victims were on 9-11.

The war on terror will never go away, it is much like the war on drugs and the war on poverty.

[eamon]

Originally Posted by Sam335ix

That right will never be taken away! I am all up for extensive back ground checks for buying weapons and the need of assault rifles. I feel safe regardless, evil and scum are out there and all of us have a responsibility to do our part by being vigilant but that doesn't mean paraiod and hate mongering. Statistics show terrorist attacks are on a decline. It's the crazies that we just can't figure out when they strike.

Would like to know where you get your "statistics," as terrorism has actually quadrupled globally in the past decade.
The only declining that took place was the fact that after 9/11 the levels of terrorism returned back to "normal" in the states.

[bolinp78]

Originally Posted by Dkhan23

It's just a False Flag. FBI never looked in to these guys. and theirs no video of the "suspects" putting down any bags, just of them going around a corner. Funny how the police commissioner said there was no drill, but yet the people on the loud speakers where telling everyone to calm down its just a drill.

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Do you really think that the feds are dumb enough to make their best evidence public before a trial takes place? Come on now..

[fireline43]

Originally Posted by JAM3S

How am I incorrect? you are obviously the exception and not the rule if you are as "vigilant" as you claim. One of the bombing victims said he saw the suspect drop his bag in front of him and walk away minutes before the blast. He obviously wasn't vigilant enough (because he did nothing about it) and most ppl wouldn't be either. People saw the big security presence and got lulled into a false sense of security most likely.

I would have to disagree and say we did back down and surrender after 9-11. Panic set in and people looked to the govt to save us and what did we get? The "Patriot" Act, the DHS, the TSA etc etc. The purpose of terrorism is to invoke fear in the civilian population and change their thinking and way of life and that is exactly what happened. We shouldnt need the DHS and TSA because the next time some guys with box cutters try to hijack a plane there will be passengers who know they are in a fight for their lives and they wont be as passive as the victims were on 9-11.

The war on terror will never go away, it is much like the war on drugs and the war on poverty.

Biggest misconception from the public is that DHS does anything really to combat terrorism. All it is, FEMA and immigration under one roof. And its the regular illegal immigrants that they deal with. FBI has the terrorism task force, they deal with that stuff. DHS was just a fancy name to throw out during that time.

[DieselDiner]

Originally Posted by Dkhan23

and theirs no video of the "suspects" putting down any bags, just of them going around a corner.

The FBI had something even better than a video, they had an eyewitness who identified suspect number 1:

Jeff Bauman, the man who became the bloodied face of the victims after the Boston bomb attacks, provided the key identification of the dead suspect.

Mr Bauman’s brother, Chris, said: “He woke up under so much drugs, asked for a paper and pen and wrote, 'bag, saw the guy, looked right at me’.”

And it's not mentioned in this article, but he was able to identify suspect number 1 from a photo, so he actually gave a positive i.d..

Read the entire article, I think everyone has seen this guy's picture, and now you can associate him with his heroism. There's also good background on Carlos Arredondo, the guy who is holding his artery on his destroyed lower leg closed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...y-bombers.html

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

Originally Posted by fireline43

Biggest misconception from the public is that DHS does anything really to combat terrorism. All it is, FEMA and immigration under one roof. And its the regular illegal immigrants that they deal with. FBI has the terrorism task force, they deal with that stuff. DHS was just a fancy name to throw out during that time.

It was created in response to the Sept 11th attacks. That wasnt even what my post was about though.

The FBI doesnt really fight terrorism, just create scenarios and convince a patsy Muslim to go along with it and give him fake munitions and arrest him when he goes to the designated target. Just so they can chalk up fake victories in this war on terror and justify said "war".

[KingOfJericho]

I think your foil hat is too tight.

[TS135i]

You can always tell if it is a genuine attack or a government staged event by what results from it...

Government staged event = A premise to take away citizens rights by passing new laws.
Genuine attack = An open public trial using current existing laws to convict.

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I think your foil hat is too tight.

Its obvious you're not very well read on this subject so I'll ignore that cliche response and educate you.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...e-terror-plots

Multiple mainstream media sources are available on this topic.