Can I really afford a BMW?

smoosh · 08-22-2016, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

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Originally Posted by Joekerr

No, I really think you were onto a good point there. And, as you pointed out, the interior is just a lowly 2 series interior. I feel like Jtodd might not have realized that, so its definitely worth pointing it out to him.

I think you just need a closer look. Come on over and I will let you check it out... you will find the undercarriage to be excellently executed - particularly at 50 mph as I pass over you.

(Not that undercarriage pervs. (Yes, I am looking at you smoosh ))

Woah, chill out oldie, we all know you're the resident creepy leg-humping gramps...

dreamingat30fps · 08-22-2016, 04:22 PM

Whatever car you decide to go with DO NOT BUY NEW! I never buy new cars, but my last car I did buy new (against my own instincts) and I regret it. I should have just waited until some used one's started showing up and gone that route.

I calculated that my Z4M ended up costing me about $100/month to drive and I sold it to a dealer so would have been less had I waited for a private sale.

There's a ton of much cheaper cars that can be had used or even CPO with a manual transmission.

- GTI
- Cooper S
- Audi S4
- 128/135
- 328/335
- E46 M3
- E85 Z4M
- E90 M3

If your not a german fanboy

- C6 Corvette
- G37S
- ATS
- FRS/BRZ
- Focus ST
- Mustang GT
- Camaro SS

I'm sure theres a lot more I missed.

jgoens · 08-22-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lups

Lol since anyone hasn't heard that one before...

The op has a good point though. He's smart enough to consider before spending. Obviously we all are too smart to spend a dime on a car, but there must be one normal person around here!

When you determine who is normal, make sure and let us know.

ResoKP · 08-22-2016, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

correct, and if you check up on that thread in question, it has been deduced that the official nickname for a E93 M3 is the "Cavalier Z28 M3". Not joking, you need to follow the developments of that thread more closely going forward.

In conclusion:

E92 M3 with a CF roof and ZCP = real M3
E90 or any non ZCP M3 = "civic" M3
E93 M3 = "cavalier Z28" M3

I could care less about how people brand my cars. I know that for me, I have a better time in an E93 than in an E92 so I picked the convertible

In reality, it just comes down to what you can afford anyways..
I wanted a high revving NA V8 (or higher # of cylinders) + convertible.. If I could afford an R8 Spyder I would've bought that instead. And if you have the money, who would say no to an Aventador Spyder?

Who cares if it's a "real" M or not.. If Hyundai made this exact same car, I would've still bought it.

Flying Ace · 08-22-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ResoKP

I could care less about how people brand my cars. I know that for me, I have a better time in an E93 than in an E92 so I picked the convertible

In reality, it just comes down to what you can afford anyways..
I wanted a high revving NA V8 (or higher # of cylinders) + convertible.. If I could afford an R8 Spyder I would've bought that over the M3. But if you have the money, who would say no to an Aventador Spyder?

Who cares if it's a "real" M or not.. If Hyundai made this exact same car, I would've still bought it.

but if you have money, why R8 Spyder, why Aventador Spyder? Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Vitesse all the way son!

fecurtis · 08-22-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Whatever car you decide to go with DO NOT BUY NEW! I never buy new cars, but my last car I did buy new (against my own instincts) and I regret it.

OP, do not listen to this piece of advice. Buying new vs. buying used each have their pros and cons, but to say to never do x is pretty bad advice.

In fact, since you're in SF, I'd say buying a new BMW would make more sense. Free service and the warranty. Being in SF, you unlikely do not have the means, space, tools, etc to work on your own car.

BimmerRookie · 08-22-2016, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

correct, and if you check up on that thread in question, it has been deduced that the official nickname for a E93 M3 is the "Cavalier Z24 M3". Not joking, you need to follow the developments of that thread more closely going forward.

In conclusion:

E92 M3 with a CF roof and ZCP = real M3
E90 or any non ZCP M3 = "civic" M3
E93 M3 = "cavalier Z24" M3

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...1294904&page=7

Cavalier Z24? Need to go change my info again! Gahhhh, I wish I had bought a real M3 in the first place!!

Flying Ace · 08-22-2016, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Whatever car you decide to go with DO NOT BUY NEW! I never buy new cars, but my last car I did buy new (against my own instincts) and I regret it. I should have just waited until some used one's started showing up and gone that route.

I calculated that my Z4M ended up costing me about $100/month to drive and I sold it to a dealer so would have been less had I waited for a private sale.

There's a ton of much cheaper cars that can be had used or even CPO with a manual transmission.

- GTI
- Cooper S
- Audi S4
- 128/135
- 328/335
- E46 M3
- E85 Z4M
- E90 M3

If your not a german fanboy

- C6 Corvette
- G37S
- ATS
- FRS/BRZ
- Focus ST
- Mustang GT
- Camaro SS

I'm sure theres a lot more I missed.

well, that list is too wide in range. He's look at cars in the 350-450 HP range. No way a BRZ or 328 should be in this conversation.

Again, the best bang for the buck is a E90 M3. Particularly my E90 M3 with 52k miles for $30k.

P1 · 08-22-2016, 04:36 PM

Good for you for putting $40K in the bank, but do you really want to put half of that into a car? I probably wouldn't do that.

R3dliner · 08-22-2016, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fecurtis

OP, do not listen to this piece of advice. Buying new vs. buying used each have their pros and cons, but to say to never do x is pretty bad advice.

In fact, since you're in SF, I'd say buying a new BMW would make more sense. Free service and the warranty. Being in SF, you unlikely do not have the means, space, tools, etc to work on your own car.

+1 that.
This is my first 2nd hand car. Always bought my cars new. Sure you take a dump on the resale, however the experience to me is priceless from ordering the car to delivery. Not to mention you know everything about the car.

This topic is very subjective on who you ask.

jtodd_fl · 08-22-2016, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

correct, and if you check up on that thread in question, it has been deduced that the official nickname for a E93 M3 is the "Cavalier Z24 M3". Not joking, you need to follow the developments of that thread more closely going forward.

In conclusion:

E92 M3 with a CF roof and ZCP = real M3
E90 or any non ZCP M3 = "civic" M3
E93 M3 = "cavalier Z24" M3

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...1294904&page=7

So this... the last BESPOKE S engine... the last NA engine... that's why I got it... a REAL M. Pfft. convertibles. Pfft... non ZCP. What are you, animals?

csu87 · 08-22-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

correct, and if you check up on that thread in question, it has been deduced that the official nickname for a E93 M3 is the "Cavalier Z24 M3". Not joking, you need to follow the developments of that thread more closely going forward.

In conclusion:

E92 M3 with a CF roof and ZCP = real M3
E90 or any non ZCP M3 = "civic" M3
E93 M3 = "cavalier Z24" M3

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...1294904&page=7

goddam i need to go buy an m3 so i can hang out on that forum. way better than the 328 vs 335 arguments on e90post

ResoKP · 08-22-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

but if you have money, why R8 Spyder, why Aventador Spyder? Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Vitesse all the way son!

Haha that car is a beast! But I hate the way it looks.

That car would be like having the best sex of your life only to realize in the morning it was Jocelyn Wildenstein

Flying Ace · 08-22-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

So this... the last BESPOKE S engine... the last NA engine... that's why I got it... a REAL M. Pfft. convertibles. Pfft... non ZCP. What are you, animals?

that makes a lot of sense...but then you turn around and buy an artificially piped sounding lawn mower (M4)?

Flying Ace · 08-22-2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by csu87

goddam i need to go buy an m3 so i can hang out on that forum. way better than the 328 vs 335 arguments on e90post

why is 328 vs 335 even a debate?

Seriously, what is there to debate on the performance aspect or any aspect of these two cars? Name one point of contention in the 328 camp.

jtodd_fl · 08-22-2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

that makes a lot of sense...but then you turn around and buy an artificially piped sounding lawn mower (M4)?

Wastes the real M in a red light race. Different car. Still cool.

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Originally Posted by ResoKP

Haha that car is a beast! But I hate the way it looks.

That car is like having the best sex of your life only to realize in the morning it was Jocelyn Wildenstein

Hey Mr Tonka , will you please go google that name for me and report back? Your history already screwed for the day!

jgoens · 08-22-2016, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by csu87

goddam i need to go buy an m3 so i can hang out on that forum. way better than the 328 vs 335 arguments on e90post

Ahh..I miss those. Are they still going on? I remember you tearing it up on that and Fundguy1 as well. Those were good threads.

csu87 · 08-22-2016, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

why is 328 vs 335 even a debate?

Seriously, what is there to debate on the performance aspect or any aspect of these two cars? Name one point of contention in the 328 camp.

Welcome to the world of e90post...

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Originally Posted by jgoens

Ahh..I miss those. Are they still going on? I remember you tearing it up on that and Fundguy1 as well. Those were good threads.

not as often as they used to. Goddam mods lock them up pretty quick

bimmette · 08-22-2016, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ResoKP

I could care less about how people brand my cars. I know that for me, I have a better time in an E93 than in an E92 so I picked the convertible

In reality, it just comes down to what you can afford anyways..
I wanted a high revving NA V8 (or higher # of cylinders) + convertible.. If I could afford an R8 Spyder I would've bought that instead. And if you have the money, who would say no to an Aventador Spyder?

Who cares if it's a "real" M or not.. If Hyundai made this exact same car, I would've still bought it.

Sorry, off-topic, but this is a pet-peeve of mine. The term is "I couldn't care less".
Thanks.

M3 Number 86 · 08-22-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

so basically, he'll pay $51k for a car that'll be worth $25k in 3 years that's not better than a E90 M3 at $30k-$45k that will only depreciate $5k-$10k the next 2 years (2008-2013 MY)?

AND the turdbos will blow up soon...V8 for the win bro.

M3 Number 86 · 08-22-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by csu87

in that case, get the better e9x 335.

or better yet, the e9x 328, which is superior to every car ever made.

e9x 28i for sure. because bmw straight six!

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nobody understood the joke.

ResoKP · 08-22-2016, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying Ace

why is 328 vs 335 even a debate?

Seriously, what is there to debate on the performance aspect or any aspect of these two cars? Name one point of contention in the 328 camp.

I bet the guys over at ferrarichat debate over red calipers vs yellow calipers just as intensely..

Obviously the red calipers are better..

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dreamingat30fps Colonel 6059 Rep 2,074 Posts Drives: Miata, Cayenne, Model 3, F350 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Florida & NC iTrader: (1)	Whatever car you decide to go with DO NOT BUY NEW! I never buy new cars, but my last car I did buy new (against my own instincts) and I regret it. I should have just waited until some used one's started showing up and gone that route. I calculated that my Z4M ended up costing me about $100/month to drive and I sold it to a dealer so would have been less had I waited for a private sale. There's a ton of much cheaper cars that can be had used or even CPO with a manual transmission. - GTI - Cooper S - Audi S4 - 128/135 - 328/335 - E46 M3 - E85 Z4M - E90 M3 If your not a german fanboy - C6 Corvette - G37S - ATS - FRS/BRZ - Focus ST - Mustang GT - Camaro SS I'm sure theres a lot more I missed.
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