[Fundguy1]

He may or may not have done anything wrong. We will never know. But his actions and attitude were piss poor at best about the afair.

[csu87]

Originally Posted by tony20009

A lot of rambling...

Did you really just lump Brady, JFK and MLK together?

And i think you missed the gist of most everything mentioned lately. The NFL had an agenda with this whole deflategate thing. They were going to punish the Patriots no matter what and they were going to go after Brady no matter what. If you can't figure that out, then ok, but most people who have looked at all the info have come to the same conclusion.

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by csu87

Did you really just lump Brady, JFK and MLK together?

And i think you missed the gist of most everything mentioned lately. The NFL had an agenda with this whole deflategate thing. They were going to punish the Patriots no matter what and they were going to go after Brady no matter what. If you can't figure that out, then ok, but most people who have looked at all the info have come to the same conclusion.

Red:
Only in the sense that as role models, they each had/have an obligation to live by a higher set of ethical comportment and standards.

Blue:
Whether or not the NFL had an agenda has no bearing on what is or is no the most ethically rigorous way for Mr. Brady to have handled the matter. Mr. Brady's stonewalling made it easier for them to pursue their vindictive objective. Simply making the texts/phone/emails available from the get-go would have preempted their ability to go after him. They'd have needed to find a new target.

Other:
Where is the "stuff" that clearly (not debatably) suggests that the NFL had an agenda?

All the best.

[csu87]

Originally Posted by tony20009

Red:
Only in the sense that as role models, they each had/have an obligation to live by a higher set of ethical comportment and standards.

Blue:
Whether or not the NFL had an agenda has no bearing on what is or is no the most ethically rigorous way for Mr. Brady to have handled the matter.

All the best.

not sure if that falls under ethics as much as it does under self preservation. If someone is out to get you, you arent going to provide them with any kind of ammo, whether it actually is there or not. I know I have emails and texts that if someone wanted to make a certain case against me, they could twist what has been said in those to fit their agenda, much as what some people do to selectively choose sources of info to fit their argument.

At the end of the day, the NFL didnt do near enough to prove Brady nor the Patriots did anything against the rules, and that is why Brady is currently playing. Whether he did or not, is another argument, but based on the previous 2 games he has now played with ball psi being closely monitored, I can't see why he would want underinflated footballs. (62/82 76% 8TDS 2INTS 616yds)

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by csu87

not sure if that falls under ethics as much as it does under self preservation. If someone is out to get you, you arent going to provide them with any kind of ammo, whether it actually is there or not. I know I have emails and texts that if someone wanted to make a certain case against me, they could twist what has been said in those to fit their agenda, much as what some people do to selectively choose sources of info to fit their argument.

At the end of the day, the NFL didnt do near enough to prove Brady nor the Patriots did anything against the rules, and that is why Brady is currently playing. Whether he did or not, is another argument, but based on the previous 2 games he has now played with ball psi being closely monitored, I can't see why he would want underinflated footballs. (62/82 76% 8TDS 2INTS 616yds)

Red:
The circumstances surrounding and how one handles any disparagement of one's character or integrity is an ethical matter, particularly if the matter involves what seems to be a transgression to which one may have contributed for personal gain in contravention of explicit rules. When the matter is isolated to oneself, it's an ethical one; when the potential scope transcends oneself and has a potential impact on others, however slight, it's a moral one.

A preemptive move is among the best forms of self preservation.

Blue:
??? Because they are easier to grasp securely (especially in cold, wet weather) seems the obvious reason in my mind, but it need not be Mr. Brady's reason. I know only that one of the equipment handlers stated (verbally or in a text, I don't recall...cf The Wells Report) he knew Mr. Brady prefers balls with less pressure rather than more.

Do you or I need to see why? We aren't the ones throwing the balls in the game. The man prefers what he prefers for whatever reason. It could be preposterous in my mind as to why he prefers softer balls to harder ones, but that it is is irrelevant. He does, that's a fact, and that's that.

All the best.

[Fundguy1]

He likes his balls soft. I'm OK with that as long as I don't have to play with them.

[infamousdiz]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

He likes his balls soft. I'm OK with that as long as I don't have to play with them.

sign my wife up for that job....who am i kidding sign me up

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by tony20009

Red:
Only in the sense that as role models, they each had/have an obligation to live by a higher set of ethical comportment and standards.

Blue:
Whether or not the NFL had an agenda has no bearing on what is or is no the most ethically rigorous way for Mr. Brady to have handled the matter. Mr. Brady's stonewalling made it easier for them to pursue their vindictive objective. Simply making the texts/phone/emails available from the get-go would have preempted their ability to go after him. They'd have needed to find a new target.

Other:
Where is the "stuff" that clearly (not debatably) suggests that the NFL had an agenda?

All the best.

They did make it available. They have it and found nothing.

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

They did make it available. They have it and found nothing.

You and I both know I'm making the distinction between doing so proactively vs. doing so reactively.

All the best.

[Fundguy1]

J-e-t-s. Jets Jets Jets!!!

[ASBSECU E93]

I'll just leave this here....

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-...234114120.html

[TXSTYLE]

I hope Greg Hardy lights his f***** ass up this Sunday!

[HFW003]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

I hope Greg Hardy lights his f***** ass up this Sunday!

Hope in one hand crap in the other and see which fills first

[TrevorM3]

greg hardy's comments were extremely weird.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

greg hardy's comments were extremely weird.

I agree. Not rude or distasteful. Just kinda strange. Almost complimentary tho:

“I love seeing Tom Brady, he’s cool as crap,” Hardy said. “Have you seen his wife? I hope she comes to the game. I hope her sister comes to the game, all her friends come to the game. One of my favorite games of the year, guys.”

There was a follow-up question by local reporter Mike Fisher that mentioned that the significant other of Jacksonville quarterback Blake Bortles perhaps was attractive as well. (I actually remember the days when sports writers asked questions about games and strategy, not the physical appearance of players’ wives and girlfriends.)

“Is she?” Hardy asked. “This kind of information is important. That’s how I select my Pro Bowls.”

Asked what he would say to those who feel he should not be on the team because he was found guilty by a judge of domestic violence, Hardy replied, “God bless you. That’s the message.”

It's actually kinda funny. I doubt Brady himself got butt-hurt at all. In fact, he chose his words carefully when asked about it:

In response to Hardy's comments, Brady said Wednesday that he is “just getting ready to play.”

“I don't really care about his personal feelings,”

Hardy will NOT be denied this Sunday after all of the time off, reports, banter, and of course overall rest from the game. I fully expect him to get to and sack Brady more than once...

[ny325]

Go Colts! Big Blue is waiting.

[Fundguy1]

Jets are my favorite team. Second favorite whoever is playing against the Patriots.

[infamousdiz]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Jets are my favorite team. Second favorite whoever is playing against the Patriots.

thats ALOT of disappointment!!!!

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by finaloption

I know it's old but

[TrevorM3]

ya'll are still talking about brady?

[csu87]

Heres a great article. didnt read it, but the pictures make it awesome.

http://www.gq.com/story/tom-brady-ch...-the-year-2015

[Taskmaster]

TOM BRADY!