[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

You forgot paper tapes.....

There was a telex at my first job that had the paper tape. Get off my lawn.

[Dpc2u]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Not long after I turned 18, NY changed legal age to 21, but they grandfathered in anyone who was already 18.

Same here. I was in FL. at the time. Some of my friends at the time weren't quite 18, so were a little jealous.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Dpc2u

Same here. I was in FL. at the time. Some of my friends at the time weren't quite 18, so were a little jealous.

Get off my lawn!
Remember when liquor laws were so loose, 15 was old enough??

Murf

[Dpc2u]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

Get off my lawn!
Remember when liquor laws were so loose, 15 was old enough??

Murf

Definitely before my time. I will get off your lawn. :

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Not long after I turned 18, NY changed legal age to 21, but they grandfathered in anyone who was already 18.

Freudian slip?

[dogbone]

......when you worked in tv production and video was edited on videotape because there was no such thing as computer-based video editing from a hard drive......

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Not long after I turned 18, NY changed legal age to 21, but they grandfathered in anyone who was already 18.

Ditto. Funny story about the times. The guy who taught all 11th grade English at my small high school owned a bar in a neighboring town, and was always chosen each year to be the senior class advisor. Why? Because he would buy each student their first drink if they went to his bar on their 18th birthday!

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

There was a telex at my first job that had the paper tape. Get off my lawn.

Get off my lawn! Some of my greatest hits from the 1970's were stored on paper tape, for transport about three hours away to the nearest EPROM programmer to be burned into the silicon.....

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by dogbone

......when you worked in tv production and video was edited on videotape because there was no such thing as computer-based video editing from a hard drive......

If your VTR was a reel-to-reel B&W unit and you know how to clean crud off of the flying heads in an emergency by placing your finger over the slot on the head drum unit with the heads spinning, you are welcome on my lawn.

If your greatest production work is stored on 3/4" U-matic, you may visit my lawn...but don't sit down.

If you ever wrote a grant for $300 to buy *four* BLANK VHS tapes, you may view my lawn from the curb. (Yes, $75 for a T-60 tape back in the olden days.)

If you know what "Never The Same Color" means, you probably spent way too much time in a two-deck studio editing videos back in the day.....

[M_Six]

Remember when RAM was about $1/MB? And a 2GB hard drive was enormous?

[vreihen16]

<== Was the first person in his neighborhood to have a 1 GB drive. It cost me $1,820...was the size of 4 bricks...and weighed even more.

<== Only had 4 KILObytes of RAM in his first computer, and it cost hundreds of dollars.

<== Drove to a huge computer/electronics manufacturer's regional office to borrow a 15 MEGAbyte hard drive to compile an operating system kernel, because it had out-gown our 10 meg drives at work. It was an 8" drive IIRC, and had a parking lever on the side to manually pull the heads off of the discs and lock them from rotating for transport.

Get off my lawn, kid...and take that 256GB iPhone with you!!!!!

[dinonz]

Originally Posted by M_Six

Remember when RAM was about $1/MB? And a 2GB hard drive was enormous?

I remember $100/MB

[rwheels]

You remember when today's "oldies" were the latest songs on the pop charts.

[VetteGuy]

When it all comes back around...

[Littlebear]

I think the first office I bought PCs for got 10MB hard drives in them.
Me, being the "Data Systems Manager", got a 20MB drive!
They got green screens, I got a cool orange screen.

Murf

[dogbone]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

If your VTR was a reel-to-reel B&W unit and you know how to clean crud off of the flying heads in an emergency by placing your finger over the slot on the head drum unit with the heads spinning, you are welcome on my lawn.

If your greatest production work is stored on 3/4" U-matic, you may visit my lawn...but don't sit down.

If you ever wrote a grant for $300 to buy *four* BLANK VHS tapes, you may view my lawn from the curb. (Yes, $75 for a T-60 tape back in the olden days.)

If you know what "Never The Same Color" means, you probably spent way too much time in a two-deck studio editing videos back in the day.....

haha ok I've got a little anecdote that will have me reminiscing a bit. Don't know if it will allow me to get on your lawn. I'll get my beer and lawn chair just in case.

In March 1994, Avid Media Composer was not a thing yet. Shows were being edited on tape.

I worked at a post house in Washington DC that did the audio-post for the tv show "America's Most Wanted" (AMW). AMW was creating a spinoff for the international market called "Manhunter". Manhunter was sort of a recap show. Basically, they took all the old AMW segments that led to the capture of a bad guy----here's a bad guy we want to find, here's some new info we got, we got him!, here's his sentence, etc----and they edited them down into one cohesive story. And then they took a bunch of those stories and packaged them into shows and sent them overseas. And you know what, the show was a hit. Turns out people outside the USA were fascinated with American baddies.

Manhunter was the first television show that anyone tried to edit with Avid Media Composer. And they decided to edit the show at our post house. In a way, it was sort of a real world beta testing. Avid had a test engineer quit Avid and go to Washington DC to be the editor of the show. They used a Mac Quadra 950. They used 15k Raptor drives in RAIDS in air conditioned closets. And they had to switch RAID drives between show segments because there wasn't a chance in hell you could put a whole show on one set of drives. And they had so many damn problems---bugs bugs bugs. And---oh my god----the render times for graphics and transitions were insane----like walk away for hours insane. We're talking about things that an iMac can do in HD in realtime with no rendering now. But that was the unofficial beginning of the digital age for professional video.

My first job ever as an audio editor in 1994 was editing music into those Manhunter episodes. Pro Tools was just starting its journey and wasn't ready for daily television work. We were doing digital audio editing on an AMS Audiofile and mixing on a Neve Logic 3 digital console with full automation. Man, that was some groundbreaking stuff. And expensive--like $200k.

The professional highlight of my life at that point was when I was given this jacket! Back in the day, industry guys would kill to have one of these. Now, it's very sentimental to me. It reminds of me of the scratching and clawing I did to get into the industry.



Once Avid and ProTools got up to speed in the late 90s, the whole industry went through a fundamental shift. Video editing rooms didn't cost $3 million dollars to put together anymore; it was $150k for an Avid. And audio post rooms weren't $750k anymore. A Pro Tools rig was $50k. At those prices, any decent sized production company could put their own stuff in. Work dried up in all the post houses and post guys like me had to adapt and go in-house at some place that used to be our client.

Watching the digital age come about in the entertainment industry was pretty fascinating. I learned a lot. Ultimately, I quit being a post mixer and started my own trailer music library. Been doing that since 2006.

Ok that's enough geezing. I think I'll go do something on my race car to make myself feel young! Actually I was supposed to go to the track today, but they didn't get enough sign ups so they cancelled the day.....ah Winter tracking in Colorado.

[wdb]

...when you intimately know four people who have died within the past three months.

We just lost two in the same week. It sure is making me feel my years.

[Littlebear]

...when large parts of your wardrobe are from dead people.
I was never dressed so well!


Murf

[Nativetexan]

You pull your back rolling over in bed.

[mc-m3]

Originally Posted by M_Six

Remember when RAM was about $1/MB? And a 2GB hard drive was enormous?

haha, I remember when 20MB was big and it took multiple 18" platters to get it.

[3.0L]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

<== Was the first person in his neighborhood to have a 1 GB drive. It cost me $1,820...was the size of 4 bricks...and weighed even more.

<== Only had 4 KILObytes of RAM in his first computer, and it cost hundreds of dollars.

<== Drove to a huge computer/electronics manufacturer's regional office to borrow a 15 MEGAbyte hard drive to compile an operating system kernel, because it had out-gown our 10 meg drives at work. It was an 8" drive IIRC, and had a parking lever on the side to manually pull the heads off of the discs and lock them from rotating for transport.

Get off my lawn, kid...and take that 256GB iPhone with you!!!!!

My 1st computer was a Timex-Sinclair with 8k of RAM. Programs were loaded from a cassette deck and took about 6 minutes or so to load. I bought it at a drugstore, of all places.

[UncleWede]

There was time time, back in the 1900s, when I had a scratchy video of Bill Gates saying no computer would EVER need more than 16K of RAM.

My Fitbit probably has more than that.

[M_Six]

I think my Apple Watch Series 6 has 64GB of storage.